Anyone buying CGC cards ?

[ozenigma]

@krill

@smpratte

I agree. PSA isn’t as harsh on centering, but they are harsh on indents imo.

So far it looks like CGC is pretty critical of centering. But its really tough to compare 1 to 1 as their grading scale is different from psa/identical to beckett. And they are brand new, so the sample size is small and mostly consists of modern cards. Where PSA has 25+ years of grading to pull data.

So cgc isnt as harsh on indents? Indents were always on par with creases as far as damage is concerned to me.

I don’t think that’s what Scott is saying.

He’s saying that PSA is harsh on them, which they very much are. You could have the tiniest indent, super hard to see and it’s an auto 6 or lower.

I’m not sure we have the data from CGC to conclude how harsh they are there, and they don’t have a grading scale published last time I checked to compare it to PSA etc.

[krill]

@ozenigma

@krill

So cgc isnt as harsh on indents? Indents were always on par with creases as far as damage is concerned to me.

I don’t think that’s what Scott is saying.

He’s saying that PSA is harsh on them, which they very much are. You could have the tiniest indent, super hard to see and it’s an auto 6 or lower.

I’m not sure we have the data from CGC to conclude how harsh they are there, and they don’t have a grading scale published last time I checked to compare it to PSA etc.

Oh I see, so too harsh on indents on PSAs part. Do you know the severity of grade drops for creases? Do they really differ on grade from 1 superficial crease versus 1 similar size nonsuperficial crease, and how do those compare to an indent?

[ozenigma]

@krill

@ozenigma

I don’t think that’s what Scott is saying.

He’s saying that PSA is harsh on them, which they very much are. You could have the tiniest indent, super hard to see and it’s an auto 6 or lower.

I’m not sure we have the data from CGC to conclude how harsh they are there, and they don’t have a grading scale published last time I checked to compare it to PSA etc.

Oh I see, so too harsh on indents on PSAs part. Do you know the severity of grade drops for creases? Do they really differ on grade from 1 superficial crease versus 1 similar size nonsuperficial crease, and how do those compare to an indent?

Good questions, but I can’t help here unfortunately.

I don’t have enough experience with creased cards to answer that. Assuming that was how PSA handles them.

As for CGC in that regard, it’s still too early imo for an answer on that too.

[gottaketchumall]

I have some Masaki marks and other cards with issues at CGC to see how they handle them. I’m also cracking a bunch of PSA to send to CGC and vice versa to just generate some data. Once I have enough to share I will.

[two]

@smpratte

People saying they dislike a label isn’t unwarranted hate, its just a preference. In fact, CGC has been advised to adjust their card label, and their response was, “we are the largest grader of comics and coins, so we are fine”.

Either way, people can have a preference, that doesn’t make them toxic because your preference is different.

False. It’s more than likely about staying consistent with the CGC Comics label. I assure you more people than just their advisor pushed for a different label. Their team consists of individuals heavily involved in MTG card communities. These decisions are typically made higher up.

[krill]

@two

@smpratte

People saying they dislike a label isn’t unwarranted hate, its just a preference. In fact, CGC has been advised to adjust their card label, and their response was, “we are the largest grader of comics and coins, so we are fine”.

Either way, people can have a preference, that doesn’t make them toxic because your preference is different.

False. It’s more than likely about staying consistent with the CGC Comics label. I assure you more people than just their advisor pushed for a different label. Their team consists of individuals heavily involved in MTG card communities. These decisions are typically made higher up.

Yea. Personally I find the smug “we dont care, we can do what we want” response the cgc apparently gave to be out of context or disingenuous. It matches their already established label design for their comic books so dont know why they’d change it for cards. I asked if this suggestion was made specifically for the new card labels or for their entire labels including comic books and didn’t get an answer so…

Also “their advisor” was the one that advised it? Do they only have 1 advisor, or was this just 1 person on a team of many?

[vehicularmenace]

As long as Cgc isn’t going to give me a month and a half long run around to have cases with switched labels that somehow made it past 2 QA checks fixed like PSA did, I’m more than happy to give Cgc a chance to provide a better experience.

[two]

@vehicularmenace

As long as Cgc isn’t going to give me a month and a half long run around to have cases with switched labels that somehow made it past 2 QA checks fixed like PSA did, I’m more than happy to give Cgc a chance to provide a better experience.

Anyone have any idea what actually happens in QA 1 and QA 2 for PSA? Do they really have 2 different steps to quality control a card two times?

[gottaketchumall]

@two

Anyone have any idea what actually happens in QA 1 and QA 2 for PSA? Do they really have 2 different steps to quality control a card two times?

Lol

[effectspore]

@two

@vehicularmenace

As long as Cgc isn’t going to give me a month and a half long run around to have cases with switched labels that somehow made it past 2 QA checks fixed like PSA did, I’m more than happy to give Cgc a chance to provide a better experience.

Anyone have any idea what actually happens in QA 1 and QA 2 for PSA? Do they really have 2 different steps to quality control a card two times?

QA 1 is you slabs being stored already graded

QA 2 is your slabs being packaged to ship

[ozenigma]

@two

@vehicularmenace

As long as Cgc isn’t going to give me a month and a half long run around to have cases with switched labels that somehow made it past 2 QA checks fixed like PSA did, I’m more than happy to give Cgc a chance to provide a better experience.

Anyone have any idea what actually happens in QA 1 and QA 2 for PSA? Do they really have 2 different steps to quality control a card two times?

QA 1:

QA 2:

[teamrocketop]

@effectspore

@two

Anyone have any idea what actually happens in QA 1 and QA 2 for PSA? Do they really have 2 different steps to quality control a card two times?

QA 1 is you slabs being stored already graded

QA 2 is your slabs being packaged to ship

QA Check 1: Has the card price gone up?

QA Check 2: Send the sender a bill for the price increase.

[null_user]

I havent graded any of my cards yet but im leaning more towards PSA when I do start because I like the look of their case better.

[traineramy]

@youngninja96

I havent graded any of my cards yet but im leaning more towards PSA when I do start because I like the look of their case better.

See you in 2022 when you post your returns! Being facetious of course, or maybe not

[null_user]

@traineramy

@youngninja96

I havent graded any of my cards yet but im leaning more towards PSA when I do start because I like the look of their case better.

See you in 2022 when you post your returns! Being facetious of course, or maybe not

hopefully not that long! lmao