Advice Needed - Should I regrade 1st Ed Charizard BGS 9.5++

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So I have owned this card for a few years now. I bought this hoping one day Beckett would change their grading scale, we all know what happened with that.

1st Edition Shadowless Charizard
Subs 9.5 9.5 10 10

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The surface and edges are clear 10s
Corners could be either 9.5 or 10 but 9.5 is fair
CENTERING - this is my main issue. I have measured the centering to be better than at least 4 other base set 10s i could find, measured by pixels, used tools, etc. The centering should be a 10.

I think this card was kept as a 9.5++ for pop control reasons. My question is should I:

  1. Do a Graded Card Review from BGS? Have they ever actually changed a centering grade?

  2. Crossover to PSA since its clearly better than most PSA 10s?

  3. Crack it (scary asf) and grade it with BGS hoping for a 10?

  4. Wait and hope one day BGS attempts to update their grading scale again?

My Card:

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Some Other BGS 10

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Most Recent PSA 10 cert I could find

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What would you do? Thanks for the responses

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I wouldn’t do anything that could risk damaging the card unless there were a more egregious misgrade.

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The centering may have been pre-2025 PSA 10 centering, but it’s not ever been BGS 10 centering so the likelihood of that subgrade getting bumped by Beckett is next to zilch. I’m hesitant to think if you did crack it out of the slab that PSA would grade it a 10 since their centering requirements for a 10 have really tightened up this year.

How do the corners look, any chance of Beckett bumping those to a 10?

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Centering alone PSA wouldn’t cross it to a 10. :melting_face:

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you can do crossover review with psa, doubt it will hit but it is the least expensive least risky option

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Can you share a back image? Just from the front centering, I would not expect a PSA 10. Your best bet is staying with the BGS 9.5

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BGS 10 CEntering has to be 50/50… Very hard..

PSA 10 even now is 55/45 so I didn’t measure your card but seem like its within that.

Great card!! Unless you are planning on selling it keep it as is.

Mike

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Welcome!

My 2 cents, you paid for a BGS 9.5 and you have a BGS 9.5. I’d personally keep it that way. Beautiful card btw

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I’m no expert when it comes to grading vintage but it seems to be within 55/45. PSA now uses AI to assist with centering.

Maybe somebody else wants to give it a shot to see how accurate my numbers are :slightly_smiling_face:

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(obviously it’s only factoring in centering)

If you do attempt a crossover, definitely share it with the fourum! If you decide not to, it’s definitely not a grade to scoff at :head_shaking_vertically:

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Crazy subgrades I wouldn’t touch it

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How would you feel if it got a PSA 9?

Three scenarios:

  1. you keep it as is with beautiful sub grades. If you cracked and resubmitted it to Beckett it could easily not be what they are now

  2. you submit to PSA and get a 10 and are pumped but what then? Are you eventually looking to sell and it would provide a clearer value?

  3. you submit to PSA and get a 9 and are bummed

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whatever you do don’t do this. there’s a video of a poor fella cracking & resubbing a PSA 10 shadowless charizard hoping for the BL 10 and gets burned

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Ive compared to other BGS 10 cenetering examples and its better than them though. Thats why i was considering.

My method using high quality auction house scans: Copy/paste 1 edge and flip it then drag it over to the opposite edge to see any difference. On 800% zoom of course

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I honestly like it better as is than as a psa 10, thats why ive never tried to cross it. Id only cross to a psa 10 if i needed to sell. My main goal was hoping BGS updated their scale and gifted me a bgs 10. Almost happened in April 2024, maybe if they sell or get a new ceo it can happen for real.

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Back is literally perfect. Cenetering true 50/50. There is 1 corner that has a tiny bit of extra material that is so small its hard to see without really focusing on it, but it is there so i understand why its not a 10 centering

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This is a very cool resource, thank you

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population control is definitely a factor which sucks

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Could you add an image of the back so we can take a look?

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The Cabal strikes again.

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