A Brand New PSA Card Grading System

This has been a pet project I’ve been working on for 15 years. It nearly got approved in 2007 when the financial markets tanked.

For the first time I’m sharing this with people outside the grading services.

You all know what the crossover service is. This would be a part of that service except if the card hit your minimum grade then it would be encapsulated whole…BGS case and all.

Below you’ll find an amateurish made mock up of what I mean.
Even if you think this is stupid (or genius) comment below.

imgur.com/gallery/bZBkn

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Love it. But can we put a Bccg case around that?

seems like overkill to me

Interesting concept on paper but can’t see it translating into reality mainly the fact that this new case will be quite large and stick out in a PSA collection. If I crossed over a BGS to PSA 10 I would see no reason to keep the old grade. One thing that would be awesome though is a BGS 10/PSA 10 would be quite a conversation piece :wink:

hahahha…

the ultimate grade… a psa 10 and bgs 10 … the true pop 1 set card that will never become a pop 2. :nerd_face:

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It would be cool to have the BGS subgrades but I think the massive case would be a turn off

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Not a fan of it sorry. Larger case will stick out like a sore thumb. It would be like the confused eldest child of a collection.

I’m suprised it almost got approved.

Legit crossover all the way :blush:

It would be approximately the size of a graded pack.
One thing I thought is it would give a buyer a choice of converting it into a straight BGS or PSA.
Another thing I liked is it could verify whether a card was strong or weak within a grade.

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unless you put the old BGS label on the back and a little text that says pre-crossover grades so we get to keep the same PSA case size

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How can PSA give a grade if they don’t get to look at it because it’s in a BGS case?

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lol this would be a way to make more money. I can see why people would want to do this haha.

It will tr.ump the market again, and try and make collectors need 2 companies rather than 1 for the “perfect card”.

You have a wonderful mind Gary…

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When you’re married to PSA but you fell in love with BGS.

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Why would PSA approve this? Wouldn’t it be a way for them to encourage people to use competitors grading services without the vice versa?

Either way I hope it doesn’t get approved. It would basically be PSA saying yes, this other company got the grade correct or no they didn’t get it correct. Essentually, if you want PSA’s opinion send the card to PSA. KISS (keep it simple stupid).

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Not a fan to be honest.

Instead of commenting something mischievous I want to ask you, Gary.

Why?

Interesting idea…

Good question brother.
I can tell you what made me think of it. One of the biggest crackers on eBay, who is VERY active still today, was running BGS 9s and 9.5s with surface problems mainly, through psa’s crossover system until they got a 10. We did/do a lot of business together but I stayed away from buying or trading for his graded cards cause I didn’t want the chance of getting stuck with those weak within the number cards.

So 10 years ago I thought of this which helped to verify a grade.

I have a BGS 9 1st Ed base Charizard. It’s subs are 9.5 9.5 9 9. Just .5 away from being Gem Mint. BGS assigns a 9 to cards with 8.5 9 9 9 also. BIG difference… Same grade.
So my dilemma is I have to leave it in the BGS case even though I’d love to cross it over to a minimum PSA 9. I did take pictures of the HOLO pattern of course but that would only help the first time it changed hands. In time that info would be lost.
With a crossover case casing, that info would be right there for all to see.

If you want BGS, use BGS. If you want PSA, use PSA. Sorry Gary, but a slab within a slab just seems a bit comical to me!

A possible alternative - PSA include the BGS label on the back, PSA label on the front.

But I doubt PSA would want to include the grading process /logo/serial code from a rival company that explicitly within their own product?

If there’s enough demand for these crossovers, surely PSA would be wise to just start doing subgrades of their own, taking that niche away from BGS.

Somebody else mentioned putting the BGS label on the back which I kind of like.

My idea was very well rec’d initially. At the time there were major battles between the two which might have been part of the motivation to follow through. Keep in mind this was 10 years ago.