1st edition jolteon psa 10 holo

[chris350dx]

In this current market last sale price doesn’t matter. The market right now is in a boom just like we say before with pokemon go. Back when pogo came out we had a huge spike then after about a year prices dipped then stabilized and now we are at higher prices than peak pogo prices. Will it go back down? Yeah probably. Lugia 1st neo gen psa 9 was hitting over $700 now been seeing them hit low 5s. This is a very emotional market and when people think a card might not be around for much longer then go crazy and pay whatever they need to. At the end of the day its a set card people are still opening TONS of 1st ed jungle packs as box breaks with youtube in this day and age is “the way to make money” so expect the pops to increase.

[madden12ut]

@pichufan

@KingPokemon

How about 500.00

I think that’s even a bit steep. The average sale price for the entirety of 2019 was $345, and that includes the recent $499 which was the highest the card has ever sold for in PSA 10 at that point. Without that it’d go down to $314. I think the recent high figure is down to there being limited market availability at the moment, but I’m pretty sure that’ll turn around soon enough. There have been 2 PSA 10s graded in the past 2 weeks.

I think if I were in the market for a PSA 10 Jolteon I’d probably be happy to part with $450 at most, but ideally I’d want to hold out to see if I could get one for $375 or so.

If you’re selling: $500 is probably easily achievable at the moment.
If you’re buying: just wait a while, $500 would be the second highest a PSA 10 Jolteon has ever sold for.

And the average price for a Dark Charizard 1st edition holo PSA 10 (POP 400 and increasing lol) was $400-500 before September 2019. Prices change people

(not saying this specifically applies to jolteon, I don’t have any insight on that card, but in general using average previous prices on cards that are regularly getting snatched up/increasing in price doesn’t make too much sense)

[pichufan]

@somepokemonguy

@pichufan just because a card isn’t as difficult to grade as other cards doesn’t mean the price can’t go up by X amount. I do agree with what you’re sort of getting at which is that cards with higher pop tend to have more consistent sales, people undercutting each other on price and as a result, smoother and more gradual growth. Population is only one piece of the puzzle though. All that being said, it wouldn’t surprised me at all to see the next one sell for less, maybe $875 or so.

I have no doubt that the next couple of sales will be closer to the $1,025 figure than the pre-December $409.99 figure, but I do doubt that that figure is in any way sustainable. Only 3 people bid greater than the December $499 price and the climb from $600 to $1,025 was made by only 2 bidders.

My comments on the card’s population weren’t meant to be read as ‘this card should be worth less because it has higher pop’, but more that this card is more likely to be readily available in future because of its higher pop, and I’m fairy certain the lack of current availability is what has driven the price up.

[algo]

@EnlightenedBulbasaur

@pichufan

I think that’s even a bit steep. The average sale price for the entirety of 2019 was $345, and that includes the recent $499 which was the highest the card has ever sold for in PSA 10 at that point. Without that it’d go down to $314. I think the recent high figure is down to there being limited market availability at the moment, but I’m pretty sure that’ll turn around soon enough. There have been 2 PSA 10s graded in the past 2 weeks.

I think if I were in the market for a PSA 10 Jolteon I’d probably be happy to part with $450 at most, but ideally I’d want to hold out to see if I could get one for $375 or so.

If you’re selling: $500 is probably easily achievable at the moment.
If you’re buying: just wait a while, $500 would be the second highest a PSA 10 Jolteon has ever sold for.

I think your information is simply outdated. Jungle prices have spiked in a major way since mid-2019 or so.

For PSA 10 1st editions, we have had people offering $2,000+ for Vaporeons and not finding sellers, Snorlaxes selling for over $2,000 as well. Kangaskhans have sold for $1,400-$1,500 and recently Clefables have started to sell for a bit more than that. Wigglytuffs have sold for near $1,000. Yesterday, a Nidoqueen went in auction for $925.

If you want to say that you would not buy cards at these prices because the value has gone up so much in the last year, that’s fine. But these are the prices the cards have been going for. In the case of Jolteon, you’re right - the last sale was for $1,025 and the sale before that was for $500.

The *only* thing that keeps the price of the Jolteon down is the population relative to other PSA 10 1st edition Jungle holos. Whereas there are only 64 Vaporeons and a few of the other Jungle holos are also under a pop of 70, there are 123 Jolteons and 164 Flareons.

So what has the Flareon been selling for? In reverse chronological order, they have sold on eBay for: $550, $415, $400, $475.

That’s despite the fact that the PSA 10 population for 1st edition Flareons are *far* higher than any other Jungle holo - only 3 Jungle holos have a population over 100. Jolteon at 123 is the second highest pop.

But Jolteons population is still significantly lower than Flareons. If Vaporeon is currently going for well over $2,000 and Flareon is selling for near $500, I certainly think Jolteon can easily go for over $500 right now (I mean, the last one literally did sell for over $1,000). Based on recent sales trends, I would bet that a Jolteon could be put up on eBay for ~$750 or so and it wouldn’t be very long before someone scooped it up.

One more thing I want to correct. You said “If you’re buying: just wait a while, $500 would be the second highest a PSA 10 Jolteon has ever sold for.”

That’s factually incorrect. Going back to late 2016/2017, Jungle prices exploded. The population for the PSA 10 1st edition Jungle holos was incredibly low at the time. At the time, I recall Jolteons selling for upwards of $1,000. Then what happened? The Jungle population had a sudden explosion, because there was a huge discrepancy between the price of the holos and the price of the 1st edition boxes (boxes were selling for ~$800 at a time when some of the holos were selling for more. So people started to crack open a ton of Jungle boxes and grade the cards. The populations started to jump. And prices came way back down in a hurry.

But in the last couple of years, the price of the boxes has continued to climb - Jungle boxes sell for over $4,000 now - to the point that opening the boxes would be a foolish financial decision (especially since Jungle holos are so hard to grade). The population of the cards slowed down again, and over time demand has started to catch up with the supply again. So in the last two years we’ve seen Jungle prices rise again, and then in the last half-year or so we’ve had a true surge in the demand and prices for these cards.

Again, the difference between this price surge and what we had 3 years ago or so is that the price of the boxes is now more than 5x as great.

/ long post

From here on I shall call you…“the knowledge” love it!

[EnlightenedBulbasaur]

Fast-forward 2 months, the most recent auction went for $1,200.

www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-1999-Jolteon-4-Jungle-Holo-1st-Edition-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/184280858780?hash=item2ae7fec09c:g:c5UAAOSw6aJesg3g

[woolsluk]

@EnlightenedBulbasaur

Fast-forward 2 months, the most recent auction went for $1,200.

www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-1999-Jolteon-4-Jungle-Holo-1st-Edition-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/184280858780?hash=item2ae7fec09c:g:c5UAAOSw6aJesg3g

I only just clocked that this thread was from months ago after j read this last post and was thinking to myself if its $500 for a 10 then I’m all over it haha.