If I had that cash right now, I would take it lol.
emba
February 27, 2020, 9:33pm
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That dumbass seller should just upload a photo of the backside and be done with it, the description is retarded af…
“I realize that it’s gonna be tough selling a card at this price without a picture of the main flaws.
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pfm:
The difference between this card and everything you provided as an example is there is a $9000 difference between a PSA 9 and a PSA 10 in this case. Personally if I was in the market for a PSA 10 Typhlosion 17, you better believe I’d be extremely picky and would like to know as much about the history of the copy as possible.
That pickiness would lead you to not buying the card if you didn’t believe it genuinely deserved a PSA 10 though, right?
fourthstartcg:
You’re assuming this seller is reputable. They are the furthest thing from it. In my opinion they are one of the most predatory and unethical people in the Pokemon hobby, but my personal victimization at their hands may play a role in this.
It’s well-known that this seller does things like this habitually. Whether it’s cracking and regrading or reviewing, the fact is that this card was a 9, has very clear flaws, and is now a 10. Regardless of the method, the result is the same.
The seller’s reputability has little - if any - bearing on PSA choosing to award this card a 10.
At the end of the day this is more of a reflection on PSA than anyone else involved. If someone choses to blindly purchase this card for the full asking price - or even for higher than the regular PSA 9 price - that’s on them. PSA -1, buyer -1, seller +2.
kpod
February 27, 2020, 9:44pm
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You can get a cleaner looking PSA 9 for $7k and send your $30k extra over to me to “invest” on your behalf
pfm:
pichufan:
I feel like sensible advice with any purchase is to thoroughly look over what you’re buying to make sure it matches your expectations. I personally don’t believe there’s anything wrong here with what the seller has done. Regrading is part of the PSA process and even if it wasn’t it’s something which will always happen. I have 2 PSA 9 Pichu cards in my collection which I’m planning on regrading as I believe they should have been 10s to begin with. If I do get these regraded and their grade does change, should I have to make it transparent that the original grade was different? I don’t believe I should.
My experience of submitting cards to PSA through Ludkins has resulted in a small number of large inconsistencies, where Ludkins has pre-screened a card as a 5 or 6 and the card in question has come back as a 9 or 10, or vice-versa where Ludkins has pre-screened a card as 9 or 10 and PSA has graded it a 6. Should I have to disclose that one set of professionals awarded this a different grade to the grade it received? Again, I don’t believe I should.
I feel like this thread is making an issue out of nothing and if anything we should be congratulating the seller for getting it successfully regraded. Is it worthy of a PSA 10 grade and a $10k price tag? Read my first sentence in this post.
The difference between this card and everything you provided as an example is there is a $9000 difference between a PSA 9 and a PSA 10 in this case. Personally if I was in the market for a PSA 10 Typhlosion 17, you better believe I’d be extremely picky and would like to know as much about the history of the copy as possible.
Indeed. Province and history would factor in a purchase for card like this. It would feel tainted if somthing like this had happened.
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pfm
February 27, 2020, 10:05pm
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pichufan:
pfm:
The difference between this card and everything you provided as an example is there is a $9000 difference between a PSA 9 and a PSA 10 in this case. Personally if I was in the market for a PSA 10 Typhlosion 17, you better believe I’d be extremely picky and would like to know as much about the history of the copy as possible.
That pickiness would lead you to not buying the card if you didn’t believe it genuinely deserved a PSA 10 though, right?
fourthstartcg:
You’re assuming this seller is reputable. They are the furthest thing from it. In my opinion they are one of the most predatory and unethical people in the Pokemon hobby, but my personal victimization at their hands may play a role in this.
It’s well-known that this seller does things like this habitually. Whether it’s cracking and regrading or reviewing, the fact is that this card was a 9, has very clear flaws, and is now a 10. Regardless of the method, the result is the same.
The seller’s reputability has little - if any - bearing on PSA choosing to award this card a 10.
At the end of the day this is more of a reflection on PSA than anyone else involved. If someone choses to blindly purchase this card for the full asking price - or even for higher than the regular PSA 9 price - that’s on them. PSA -1, buyer -1, seller +2.
You seem to be making issues with this thread while ironically arguing there’s no issue. For them most part I think people agree the seller didn’t do anything wrong in this situation, after realizing it went though the proper review channels. There was the issue of the cert being covered but that’s been changed so at this point I don’t think the seller has done anything wrong.
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I’m not spending $10K on the card because it’s a PSA 10.
I’m spending $10K because it’s a 4xxx cert, the only TRUE 10s.
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Dizzle
February 27, 2020, 11:03pm
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churlocker:
I’m not spending $10K on the card because it’s a PSA 10.
I’m spending $10K because it’s a 4xxx cert, the only TRUE 10s.
I think you meant to say, “Tru”
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acebren
February 28, 2020, 6:22am
50
Bad financial decisions like that are probably part of the reason why you don’t have the cash to buy it XD
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Hobby purchases are based on what you’d pay right?
My finances are great, thanks for asking. How is buying that a bad financial decision because you can’t see the back? I don’t intend on buying the card, putting it in a stand just to stare at the back of it. I’m buying the grade, from a grading authority that is well trusted and established.
I hear the Mona Lisa is for sale for really cheap guys, no photos of her back though so you probably won’t want it.
prochaos:
pokemon_matt:
Hobby purchases are based on what you’d pay right?
My finances are great, thanks for asking. How is buying that a bad financial decision because you can’t see the back? I don’t intend on buying the card, putting it in a stand just to stare at the back of it. I’m buying the grade, from a grading authority that is well trusted and established.
I hear the Mona Lisa is for sale for really cheap guys, no photos of her back though so you probably won’t want it.
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@mattytommo , So you buy the grade not the card? That card was a 9. So you are essentially buying that.
kpod
February 28, 2020, 1:39pm
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Bruh why do people post $3000+ cards with a single picture of the front, and nothing of the back… Oh wait, “Milotic must be embarrassed of her back!”
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She so shy, she gesha shy
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acebren
February 28, 2020, 1:44pm
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pokemon_matt:
Hobby purchases are based on what you’d pay right?
My finances are great, thanks for asking. How is buying that a bad financial decision because you can’t see the back? I don’t intend on buying the card, putting it in a stand just to stare at the back of it. I’m buying the grade , from a grading authority that is well trusted and established.
I hear the Mona Lisa is for sale for really cheap guys, no photos of her back though so you probably won’t want it.
Oh boy, you’ve got some learning to do
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