Vintage vs Modern Poll: where do we draw the line?

XY still being voted modern is wild to me. XY was 10 years ago.

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Average 1888 Allen & Ginter ā€œBirds of Americaā€ collector

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At risk of projecting my feelings on everyone here, I imagine this was a re-entry point (as adults) for many here. The experience of collecting was a lot more concious than as kids, therefore we can link/trace it to our current involvement with PokƩmon. XY will probably always feel like modern to me.

btw @pfm could you add SwSh to the results you made?

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SwSh being ā€œultramodernā€ makes the term kinda meaningless for me lol

Good. I’ve never heard of ā€œultramodernā€ until this thread, did you make this up or is everyone referring to SV as ā€œUltramodernā€?

https://www.elitefourum.com/search?q=ultramodern

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I still think transitional doesn’t feel like comprehensive enough for dp/hgss eras and we need another category to fit in, be it retro in this instance. That way we would have the following with some room for varying opinions:

-Vintage: base-neo or e-series
-Retro: e-series or ex era-hgss
-Transitional: bw and perhaps xy
-Modern: perhaps xy but at least s&m, perhaps at least beginning of swsh too
-Ultramodern: sv, maybe atm at least the later swsh too but as time goes by it’s harder to justify them in this category

The change between hgss and bw is so radical so it doesn’t feel right to put them in same category, that’s my main issue with these results. The differences between beginnings and ends of some gens also make it feel logical for era changes to happen in the middle of some gens, the more clear ones probably being gen 3 and gen 8. Also, the term modern can confuse some people but that’s very flexible term, at least when considered only as a name of an era. I think some things that happened 10 years ago or even 15-20 years ago definitely can be considered as modern, for example the arrival of smartphones. The issue that this 10-20 years is a big part of most of our lives, for some it’s even majority, and therefor some things that have happened for example in our teenage years can be tough to consider modern even if in whole picture it would be so.

ā€œI’ll talk to you all in three years, mark the timeā€ - Hyper Modern

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could also adopt ā€œstandardā€ (the tcg designation for sets currently legal for play in the standard format) which is simply the last 3 years of sets moreorless

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Makes too much sense. Stop it.

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We will have:

  • Post Hyper Modern
  • Renaissance (WOTC buy again licenses)
  • Elon Musk Era
  • Interplanetary Era
  • Post Human Era
  • Kakuna Ban Era

What about ultra vintage? This would be anything Japanese pre-1999, but particularly 1996 no rarity cards.

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This absolutely feels like what should be done. Therefore we should probably all fight over it. :laughing:

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only 20ish results and mostly Dyl lol

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lol it is mostly @Dyl :eyes:

Legacy?