Team Rocket Booster Boxes Sold for $30 at Garage Sale

I personally think it is a terrible event. My heart broke even when I read it. But I wonder why the seller didn’t ask to be sure about the number of items sold for approval to sell them. I don’t think the buyer will return to give it back unless they have a good heart.

First off, I clearly was not condemning anyones moral compass, I was simply saying using “seller should know what theyre selling” as an excuse to wash away all possible moral wrongness in this type of purchase is wrong. It is most certainly still at the minimum morally grey. I mean I say it very explicitly that I wouldnt even find the person in this specific person to be evil even if they knew what they were buying. See quote below

“I’m not gonna say anyones evil for buying this but I dont feel like that is a valid excuse to completely wash away any moral ambiguity in these types of scenarios.”

Secondly, I figured someone would bring up the “where do you draw the line” argument which is a whole other debate which this specific instance didn’t really need. Where do I draw the line? Somewhere way the hell below 30 dollars for a twenty THOUSAND dollar item. Yea, you could argue where the line should be drawn but youre insane to say 30 dollars for a 20k dollar item hasn’t already clearly crossed the line into being at the very least morally questionable.

Or worse… Starbirth packs!! :astonished:

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I think the realistic response to this message is to return exactly 24 unweighed packs—no more, no less. And if the buyer returns just light packs, they are clearly scum.


On a more serious note, for discussion's sake, does seeing the seller post this request change how anyone feels about what is the right thing to do in this situation?

I can see how some people might be happy to keep the item if the seller remained ignorant and never knew what they lost (or if the buyer was ignorant of the seller’s remorse) but might feel pangs of guilt if a message like this surfaces and they knew of the seller’s situation/regret. I already saw some people here that said they would inform the buyer even prior to purchase, suggesting that they would let the seller know of the vast price discrepancy off the bat and see how the situation evolves from there.

I do think there is a very murky line of what is acceptable and more questioningly acceptable when it comes to snagging deals. Like @wooltchi said, this example is obviously on a pretty extreme end and therefore is more polarizing.

What if the buyer had no idea what the boxes were worth either and just decided to buy them since they were from their childhood and thought they might be fun to open? :wink:

Although the facts aren’t exactly very clear, this discussion will be endless with everyone tweaking the scenario slightly.

If it was Elon Musk, would you tell him what the market price is and then hash out a deal?

What if it was a single mother on minimum wage with two kids - one handicapped?

What if the latest sold price on PWCC was way above the normal prices and hadn’t been paid for yet?

What if the father actually nicked the boxes off his deceased friend’s wife to begin with?

All we do have is a woman purportedly sold 3 sealed Team Rocket booster boxes that belonged to her living father to at least 2 men for $30 at her garage sale and was told later on the market price of the boxes.

And honestly, even if, taking the Elon Musk hypothetical, you said the principle was the same, I’d ask, is it moral for you to further enrich someone who is exploiting others?

If you’ve managed to commit such an unfathomable blunder then you should at least explain the situation properly, on the off-chance that anyone would consider coming forward. How did they end up on the table and why did no-one do a 10 second google search with the information presented in block letter form all over the boxes.

It’s probably also a good idea to temper expectations and state exactly what kind of gratuity/split you’d hope for, seeing as a full return (as was requested) is supremely unlikely.

67 posts and nobody saying they would open it?
Am I the only retard here?

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Someone said they would open and keep an art set, then sell the rest.

I said the best case scenario would be the buyer also didn’t know the value and they opened it to relive their childhood.

Either way, it’s the least common answer from reading the posts.

For the hypothetical of what’s morally right, is it okay not to return the boxes even if the buyer didn’t know the worth?

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I was too scared to say I’d open the box and evey pack haha

Why not returning the box opened, empty and refilled with G.I. Joe saying “Sorry buddy, seems like you’ve been scammed all this time. Thanks god there was your friend here noticing that for you”?

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If they were actually resealed, then I guess everyone loses.

I do believe there is a case to be made that it’s morally right to keep if either of the buyers didn’t know the worth especially if they had a kid or someone they wanted to share the opening experience with.

I cant imagine a random buyer knowing the value of the boxes and only buying one and not all three.

Bruh …
I was meaning to take off the Rockets cards and put inside random bullshit assuming that the box was really factory sealed.
Faking the reseal myself.
(Not actually resealing, just giving him the box opened so that he could think of It being resealed)

If that’s the case, thats just regular charizardballer69 antics.

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Is it cliche that its Team Rocket booster boxes?

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Your opinion that 20k profit on a $30 purchase is morally wrong doesn’t hold any weight when you’re unable to give an amount of profit that would be morally acceptable. And why does your opinion get to be the universal decider that $20k is too much? What is it based on?

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These stories are the same as “I had an attick find” , “bought this in a storage box sale” .
I don’t believe them and if it’s a true story than it’s bad luck for the seller.

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Highly disagree with this. That’s like trying to argue when do you determine pieces of sand make a pile versus when they do not.

The world is not objective and as much as we like to tought the “sensibility” of “business is business” even actual businesses can be flexible, weigh in considerations, and choose to make better choices. They, like every other human being run thing, are capable of making mistakes.

I often wonder if the business mindset just clouds or poisons people at times. If folks weigh black and weight business opportunities versus moral and character considerations then everyone loses, everyone should take advantage of everyone else.

Maybe a better question folks should ask is “How do you weigh your own desires versus others? Are you willing to take advantage of someone else for your own gain? And if so how do you justify that?”

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Thing is, the adult wasn’t planning on selling them…he was just holding them. So it’s not like he desperately needed 20k and now he’s out of that. It’s on the seller to know what they’re doing and to ensure stuff is priced appropriately.