Oh the fraud is abundant on both sides, but idk if I can forgive CGC considering the extent of that scandal
Start your own grading company and take it seriously, itād be a market first!
Not a slight toward you at all, either. Or anyone for that matter. It is what it is .GIF

The Playtest Scandal dosenāt affect how they grade official cards made by the pokemon company. Said this since the scandal came out.
Still gonna grade with CGC, if you donāt like it that much start your own ![]()
Honestly the āstart your ownā comments are so blatantly backhanded and unnecessary
Let me clarify: Iām not shaming you for still giving money to CGC, I genuinely just wanted to understand how people are able to justify it to themselves and forgive/forget. Speaking solely for myself, I can only see them as incompetent now.
I for one just wonāt be grading at all now unless obligatory
Money and ROI are the only things that matter. Integrity does not.
So youāre saying Iām right? ![]()
I foretold this
serious answer though: I wouldnāt trust them with ambiguous, potentially fake rare cards for my own collection. What Iām grading with them is mostly readily available and probably not fake. As far as I can remember, they were not malicious (just very incompetent) and actually also just got duped by a bad actor, and paid everyone out with insurance in a relatively quick manor. Could be wrong there of course. So yeah when it comes to very rare niche relics of the past, I wouldnāt trust them. My Mimikyu AR from mega dream or whatever will be fine though
When is grading obligatory, though?
Iām truly not trying to offer a āback handedā comment when I say āstart your ownā as well, I apologize if it seemed that way and I do also understand completely if you donāt believe me but thatās really all that has ever gone on within the card-grading industry. All I am trying to say.
Everyone makes mistakes
also wasnāt it found out because some guy zoomed in times a thousand and found the microscopic print dots that revealed the truth? Aināt no way theyāre doing that with every card
even expensive ones. Although I suppose a money threshold for implementing that would be merited
IMO only if you have a certain tier of grail card in good condition that is so valuable that you do not intended to keep it. In that case I would grade it with PSA or Beckett and sell it immediately
I no longer grade anything for my PC. I donāt see the point considering I collect for the art, not for the value.
Iām blackpilled on grading
All he did was check the printer Metadata, which showed most all of the playtest prototype cards were printed in 2024
The metadata is a secret code, almost like DNA which tells the history of the print
some guy ![]()
I agree with grading cards to flip, the main benefit aside from reselling (nothing at all wrong with profiting BTW) would be the insurance plan/label + cert # that you purchase when you submit. Assuming your card is holdered, that is. Grade if you want but thereās no winning the moral debate, not an accusation in any way either.
Much respect to you goat
been that way for some time
Ngl my bad that was a bit backhanded.
i have two subs at psa right now that i have to pay for when theyre done, thankfully they arent affected by this price increase
however i think my next sub is going to cgc
sucks i have to pay for that upfront though
Some guy zoomed in times a thousand
sorry @pfm. Imma be real I didnāt know that was you. My E4 boots are still pretty shiny.
RIP some guy
Hello some goat ![]()
This latest announcement honestly just makes me feel even less motivated about grading.
I still have many cards that I need to grade for my personal collection, and right now I genuinely donāt know what to do. As a Spanish collector, many of these cards simply donāt exist already graded on the market. Itās not like in English where you can just go out, pick the grade you want, and buy it. Most of the time, if I want the card in a slab, I have to submit it myself.
If I send them to Beckett, I know Iām probably going to wait a very long time and pay a lot more money. BGS Europe is a mess with grades, and they also increased their price and their turnaround to 75+ business days on their only tier available ( at they same time the opened a second service at 90⬠at 15 business days)
If I send them to PSA (leaving aside how unfair it is that there are old PSA 10 certs out there that today would grade a 7-8), it feels like Iām accepting in advance that the card might receive a lower grade than it truly deserves, while again paying more and waiting forever.
The more I look at it, the more the grading system just feels unfair from every angle.
At this point, it almost seems like the only reliable or cost-effective alternative is CGC, even more as a collector located in Europe.
And the crazy part is⦠I never thought I would even consider that. My main collections are already completed in PSA and Beckett holders.
So now Iām asking myself: should I start mixing CGC into the collections Iām building right now?
Maybe the answer is yes.