I wonder where these guys will settle if it turns out that akabane/whoever has a few 5 row boxes of them. Do you think their price would be influenced by the overall amount of playtest cards?
For instance, there may only be (theoretical numbers here) 5 of the charmander, but if there is 2000 total playtest cards in the pop report, where would you line that charmander up vs something like a snap charmander? My gut feeling says itd be lower, but that feels weird considering its pop 5 vs pop 20 in existence or w/e the snap is.
Im purposefully ignoring all the other variables like the ambiguity around the provenance and stuff like that. Idk, curious as to what you guys think
I’m amazed in this day and age that people are expected to just trust someone’s word that a historic prototype of an expensive collectible is real. Especially the word of CGC of all places. Proof or it didn’t happen.
Was wondering when this would surface publicly. People will still remain livid about not getting additional details how they want it when they want it but there you have it, Akabane clearly signed off on these 3 separate prototypes here in private. Does this make ppl big mad at Akabane?
I still find curious that someone that doesn’t particularly strike me as one that likes to be in the spotlight decides to cash out selling prototypes which have a relatively small audience going through a verification process, authentication with cgc, hidden information and dumping all them at once instead that taking his binder with the illustrator, kangaskhan family, and complete no rarity (not mentioning the snap printsheet, the gyarados printsheet, the prototype neo sheet and all the base boxes), walking into psa japan ,getting them graded and making 10× without any hussle. He could also get the akabane collection tag and get even more.
Genuine question: Can anyone explain how you grade something like this? Like with a normal TCG card, you have many examples to compare. You know what a factory pristine copy looks like. In the case of some of these being paper glued to thicker paper, how do you measure them? Are there other prototype cards in other games that work as precedence?
some grading companies would froth at the mouth to grade something like this, even if the item is not a traditional card like we would expect. I’m not saying cgc was frothing, but they clearly saw value in grading seemingly dozens of these “cards”. How CGC determined they were real and worth authenticating is still fuzzy to me, but somewhere along the line they determined it was worth grading them. I don’t doubt cgc’s ability to find proof, but I haven’t seen much outside of the signed cards shown a few messages above this one. Much of the debate in this post and others stems from a lack of public knowledge as to how these were authenticated and who/where they were sourced from.
I think we need to mute this thread. People just looking to be outraged at CGC like always. Akabane could make a video at cgc headquarters saying everything is good and people here would still question it lol
I think deep down they knew. At this point people are just mad that they’re selling for high prices imo. Or maybe this hurts the whole “How dare CGC authenticate these cards without enough info heralded publicly that’s personally acceptable to me”
Nah, you can be cautious about anything, this has been big mad energy. And no, this wasn’t about how these were graded, it was about if they were “authentic” or someone was printing at home. I do think the criticism about how they’re graded is a little more refreshing and warranted. After all I don’t think its the paper/cut themselves that are being graded for corners/centering etc. Looks more like the card stock that they were fixated to.
Or maybe this hurts the whole “How dare CGC authenticate these cards without enough info heralded publicly that’s personally acceptable to me”
