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Dude those are 5 figure items
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Yea. No idea why youād even compare mass produced items released to the public vs privately released cards to employees. Creatures deck literally couldnāt be scalped, it was not a product on shelves. Apples to oranges.
Ok take your pic:
Japanese Stamp Promos VS Special Delivery Charizard/UPC.
Signed Events in the US VS Japan.
How signatures are sold in Japan VS US.
There is obviously a difference in how each market reacts. Anything that can be scalped, will be in the US.
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No I agree, America 100% has a very annoying āgrindsetā attitude that still persists after 2020. But you just compared a product being released in stores in America vs something that literally cannot be scalped as it was not released publicly to prove scalping in America vs Japan.
Yes exactly! The 25th deck was just an off the cuff example since it was a 25th anniversary release. The other examples are better.
Pokemon has effectively sold this type of product before, but better. Take a look at the CP6 or Evolutions sets. They are essentially reprints of the original base set, but for a reasonable price.
The MTG 30th Anniversary Set is an attempt at reprinting Alpha/Beta/Unlimited (minus some controversial cards), but for an insane price point with no assurances (i.e., you could open up the $1,000 box and get 
) and frankly worse art.
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CP6/Evolutions is such a great example of how to do reprints! It just feels more thoughtful. That is one where both Japanese & English killed it! 
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I would honestly have preferred just a small set, kind of like a Celebrations thing. Just have the best ABU cards and some full art types similar to the Secret Lair cards they do, and maybe have some other variants mixed in or whatever else. Make it an expensive/limited run if you have to, but make it enjoyable as well to appreciate the early heritage & beauty of MTG. It would be way more enticing. But as it stands, I cannot get excited to spend $1000 just to a roll a dice on this product and go to the casino.
I could make a $1000 go so much further into other Pokemon or MTG cards with way less risk & enjoyment either for collecting or playing or both.
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Celebrations is another good example of how reprints can be done well. Mass produced sets that offer nostalgia and introduce newer audiences to the older cards and tcg meta. While its not the same thing entirely, the English side Celebrations promos are another thing I want to see more of. With each example, (evolutions/cp6, celebrations, celebrations promos) older designs and cards can be āreintroducedā in a manner that is a unique release while also not taking away from the older cards/sets already in existence.
The big kicker here is the price. All these were msrp, readily available (celebrations is even popping up again in stores as of this week!), and the sets were put into multiple products that ranged in price so that everyone could enjoy. The MTG stuff is just crazy expensive for what you get and for what its supposed to be. Maybe im not seeing something here, but frankly it sucks to have such a cool product and release be tied up at that price. I would hope that a set celebrating the most iconic cards in mtg history would actually be feasible to acquireā¦Not to mention that the cards arent even tournament legal! Itād be one thing to do a 30th anniversary Black Lotus promo and have it be some super expensive, limited item. Its another to do nearly the entire set and have packs be over $200ā¦for cards that arent even allowed in playā¦
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100% agree with the last few replies. MTG made some comment about wanting to provide the experience of opening a lotus or this or that etc etc but today. That canāt happen, its done unless you spend the thousands and thousands on the vintage packs to open a real one.
The thought of pokemon selling a 1000 dollar product to āprovide the feeling of opening a base set charizardā would be such a spit in the face. Evolutions/celebrations did it so well imo. You know youre not opening a real base set charizard but the feeling is pretty great nonetheless and you canāt replicate opening those 90s card exactly. And spending 1000 bucks and then getting a reprint lotus is NOT gonna feel like opening a lotus in the 90s. Yknow what feels a lot more akin to opening a pack in the 90s? Only having to spend a few dollars on a pack and pulling the card you want.
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For anyone curious, you can now see the full set here:
Interestingly, the variant/vintage inspired cards are actually framed better compared to the modern variants in some cases:
Definitely prefer the one on the right. Guessing it must have something to do with the print process and the newer frame.
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This will sell out instantly. I didnāt see anything about qty which I would want to know before dropping $250/pack on a non-legal reprint.
didnāt they do that with the evolution set and partially with celebrations? I think its the only way for people to experience such opening, unless a time machine is recreatedā¦
I donāt think there is any pricepoint that tru collectors can afford that also excludes resellers. As the price gets higher you cater to a smaller number of people but as long as there is demand, resellers will exist.
Even with the creatures deck, there are still people out there who bought one and made money off of it.
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Iām not very familiar with MTGā¦ Can someone explain why people are simultaneously commenting "this is a terrible product, no one wants this " and "This will be scalped / sold out instantly "? Who is buying it from the scalpers if by no one likes it? Is there a PokĆ©mon parallel you are envisioning? Maybe the gold 20th Anniversary Pika?
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People hate the product for the price point and new artstyle, but FOMO will drive demand 100%. This is the first opportunity to āpullā the Power 9 (best cards in the game) in a pack of Magic the Gathering in decades.
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I thought the same thing after watching Rudyās video about how āeveryone in mtg agrees its dumbā, but also how it will sell out. I imagine this will get a lot of speculative peripheral buyers. Kind of like the sports guys who pay a ton for topsun, while no one in pokemon is touching those prices.
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If the Charizard collection we just got, retailed for $499. It would also be universally hated for the price, but would also instantly sell out if it was a limited product
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Call me ignorant, but Iām of the belief that the reserved list serves little purpose as the historicity of the early MTG stands on its own.
Wizards has gone too long without reprinting the OG cards and set a standard that they never should be reprinted. Probably why they made this an extremely limited release which will disappear in a moment instead of a being the fun frenzy it could be.
Iāve never realized how great it is Pokemon can do reprints and pretty much just make it a net positive all around.
The reserved list is first and foremost to protect the financial value of vintage MTG cards on the secondary market, and secondly to prevent ābrokenā cards from reentering the competitive scene. These are serious and contentious topics in the MTG sphere. I would recommend learning more if you are interested because the rabbit hole runs pretty deep.
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