Lets talk about Australia…

So Australia has always been a mystery with little known detail other than the prints exist. We are aware of two different facilities that are named on the Uncut sheet site and from what we know, different inks were used on jungle and fossil red logo cards. The 4th print base cards have 2 separate variants of ink that each favor jungle or fossil variants.

This contact card references Nintendo for contact and not WOTC. Similarly the australian packs drop Nintendos icon from the pack. @packyman if you could drop a pic

I know we have some uncut sheets put there as well.

Comparing Vileplume from Belgium and Australia, they share the same color of Pokemon Power as the Meganium from Neo Genesis helping show these were some of the final printings of 2000. Whats everyones thoughts and knowledge that can be added? Any insight to nintendo dropping the logo off their packs?

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@cosrob

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Portrait of a cat hunter

Here is the pack, for Base set it does include the Nintendo seal. The Jungle and Fossil packs do not have it.

The Chinese and Korean Base packs also do not have it, but those say made in USA.

The Australia manufacturers had a terrible machine for crimping and sealing the packs so it is almost impossible to ever grade a sealed pack as a 10.

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Is there a glossy Australian version for Jungle?

Yes

Right is Australian, left is belgium

@eeveeteam

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image

Do you have any photos which highlight the difference more? Curious to see how glossy it is.

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Ill do a couple comparisons to an unlimited copy and post in the morning buts gloss is a terrible thing to look for in a picture

Tbh the ink and cardstock are the best identifiers. They have the 3rd print stamp but are mostly tough to differentiate between usa

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Youll see the 3rd print are a hair lighter

From top down with magenta angles:

2nd print unl +/+

3rd Belgium +/-

3rd Aus -/-

3rd USA -/-

Notice the bottom 3 have 3rd print jungle stamps

Belgium and usa switched places but you can tell which HP is which by the magenta

Unlimited^

Belgium^(has another stock similar to Aus as well and one that favors the unlimited stock, 3 different patterns)

Aus^ note vertical lines and air bubbles

99-00 usa

Tried to do a video but too large file

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I feel like I can see a difference in the corner shapes. It’s subtle but once you train your eye it I think it becomes another visual metric for identification.

Basically corner rounding starts at/before the squared artwork edge, and the other the corner starts much closer to the edge of the card.

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I don’t quite have the eye for this yet

For me I see it as where the curvature of the corner begins. I put arrows to try and help pinpoint what I mean. On the left one, the curve starts beyond the square corner of the artwork, closer to the corner edge. The right one begins to the left of the square edge of the artwork and is more gradual. It’s similar to Apple changing the border radius on app icons.

And how many prints do you associate this with?

I use the rounding on the right in the above picture as an identifier for the 1999 USA (pack says 1999-2000) cards vs 1999 Belgium cards.

I will have to check if Aus has a unique curvature, or if it aligns with USA or Belgium.

Take a guess which is which here.

Scroll up to Jolteon

Left USA? We have terrible corners but starting to see it with that aide befor

I would be skeptical to use corner roundness as an indicator. We all know QC sucks across nearly 30 years

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It could potentially be an indicator but i wouldnt go all in on it

The third from the left, what I think you are saying is Australia, looks closest to the last versions of Base set.

It’s a metric I have 95% confidence in for the unrecognized Base set cards. I have 10 different samples from 5 different foreign language print runs, and have also pulled cards from Belgium 1999 and USA 1999-2000 packs.

The machines do mess up periodically but once you see it, you don’t even have to check for the “e” error. I don’t have enough data though for anything beyond Base set runs.

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