It’s pretty simple. For people who are selling raw cards and charging the price of what they PERCEIVE it to grade is getting out of control. It really is. Let me make it clear. You don’t grade cards. You aren’t trained to grade cards. You most likely don’t have the proper tools to grade cards. So stop pretending you know it’s true grade and stop charging ridiculous prices for a card that’s raw (2x-3x market). If you’re so confident it will grade so high send it in yourself.
It’s bad enough some cards are 3x5x their value from 6 months ago but I’ll be damned if I’m paying triple the already crazy raw price for a card you think will grade a 9 that’s realistically a 6-7. Just stop.
You are not obligated to purchase from people who are selling for higher than you perceive the value of the cards to be. They can justify their prices with whatever reasons they desire just like you can ignore them because of those justifications.
my friend… you can blame the gambling bros for this who also think if they get a “hit” from a box break it will automatically get a psa 10 so they just 10x’ed their money
Meh. Sometimes raw prices or “comps” are out of line. I occasionally list raw NM cards around the psa 9 price if i feel like most NM copies listed are worse condition, or the other sellers have less experience/feedback, or if i would just rather more money for it based off my personal valuations. If the people viewing the price are disgusted by that practice i guess they are just too sensitive. If buyers want to put in the work it takes to have the cards some sellers “overprice” they would probably understand how some sellers decide on their prices..
Ive always loved the “this would grade a 10” line.
If its gonna grade a 10, grade the damn card and ask for that price then.
If not, your card is a nm raw price
Sometimes the raw value for a card doesn’t add up your right. And it’s pretty clear when that’s the case. I have no issue with that and I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve paid over the market value in some instances. But we are getting away from my overall point. People are horrible at assessing grades. Grading has grown so out of control it’s effecting raw prices. I mean why even have market prices at all?
Meh yeah some people suck at grading. Ive graded 3000 cards though so if i think it’s a 9 its going to be a 9 majority of the time but yaaa i get the idea that most people are braindead
The trend that raw cards are worth more than a PSA 9 copy is wild.
I brought slabs and singles to Collectacon, several vendors turned their nose up at PSA 9 slabs (100+ value, “I’d be interested if this was a 10”) but my single cards sold at asking price and no questions asked. These were all cards I’ve looked over multiple times and I have determined will not get a 10. Vendors hardly checked condition, probably because they know some schmuck will buy it at 100% of market rate.
Not sure if this is because modern cards grade fairly well or what but it’s kind of obnoxious.
While I agree it can be exhausting I can’t blame sellers for this practice. As long as buyers continue to pay graded prices for ungraded cards sellers have no incentive to do otherwise.
As @Slade mentioned, all you can really do is wait until the market shifts and sellers have less leverage (or play both sides of the equation).
I got really bummed out going to a card show because every time I bought a notable card from someone selling a bunch of modern stuff, they kept saying “that one could grade a 10”. And it discouraged me. It. kept. happening. I don’t want to grade cards and they just assumed like its just what you do. I just want to make nice binders with card sleeves that match the colors of the set. So I guess I’m the shmuck buying the singles.
The schmuck is the one who believes the vendor that it could actually grade a 10 (after the vendor already looked at it and decided to sell raw instead of grading themselves)
Singles are great and I hope the prices go down because by definition ungraded cards should cost less than cards graded mint
This is why I only buy graded now. More expensive most of the time but it’s north worth the headache, you have cowboys on eBay trying to sell dog crap copies for PSA 9/10 prices.
BIN listings, yes, but I’ve found that auctions of raw cards sometimes sell for cheaper than the grade they would likely receive. You just need to look outside eBay.
I understand the frustration, I just find it funny that people “don’t have the tools to grade cards” when graders probably spend a 30-60 seconds looking at a card.
, sell to the bull 