Re: the illustrator, I see they managed to give that slab a better main pic (and a polish-up?). Here’s a pic of what Goldin showed previously as the main photo pic (there’s a few articles that saved the old listing photo down) :
I’m surprised the big scratch on the right is gone - assuming it’s just from a good polishing job and maybe some lighting help etc… (I don’t know why they didn’t clean up the back though?). I guess you would never reholder it as between PSA’s guarantee $250k limit and the whole downgrade while reholdering risk now I would never want PSA to touch that slab lol.
That said, whoever wins it probably can take the hit and may not care that much
I am shocked it wasn’t reholdered. Could have went to PSA personally and got the thumbs up it will stay a 10 during the reholder process. Could have offered PSA like 50k to do it. The auction price could be 6 figures ++ lower because it is in an old slab.
Imagine selling on ebay and during the authenticity guarantee they downgrade there
Realistically where will the sale price land? I heard of ken giving logan offers of 7million, so I assume it will be bid to at least 8? I am trying to understand if the loga paul value portion of the item will bump it higher but then again i don’t keep up with influencers
Purchase it way over market value because some YouTube scumbag and his friends owned it, donate it to a museum, get a $15,000,000.00 tax deduction. This Illustrator is worthless because everybody knows the story behind it, knows it been nothing more than an ‘investment vehicle’ for a chosen few and that a great margin of it’s value only is that Logan Paul (partially) owned it. And not to forget that it’s an Illustrator that like the majority of them has been resubmitted over and over until a PSA10 was given.
Where did you hear offers of 7mil from? Ken gave Logan a cash advance of 2.5mil to auction it, with an assumed value of at least 5mil.
The value is in the publicity, as others have said. That’s what’s driving the price.
The card’s actual value is lower than whatever it will eventually sell for. I don’t believe the hobby or market is ready for an 8-figure sale right now, but I feel like 8,000,000 is possible. With that said, anything is possible. I think many people in this forum, especially those who already spend a lot, would prefer the closing price to be on the lower end right now.
That Sugimori original Dawn art is so gorgeous, wish it was in the budget to bid on. Curious what it’ll go for, stuff like that doesn’t come up too often.
Pretty confident as well this wont sell below 5m , Goldin will make sure this sells for more and if so will make even more news and publicity for Goldin ect more mula for them in return.
You have a higher chance of your great-great grand papi returning from the grave and calling himself the King of Games than the Illustrator has of ending below $5m.
One thing I learned from watching Goldins ‘documentary’ on Netflix is that they have one focus; making record sales. Selling the Illustrator for 5 million is not a record sale, it’s matching what Logan Paul paid for it excluding what he already extracted from the market after the investment scam. This card has to sell for 8 million to even make Paul get back what he paid for after fees, and for Goldin to make a profit.
(Just typing this all makes me giggle and shiffer, because this card is so involved with so many scams that saying words like paid, investment, breaking even and profit makes no sense)
I am assuming the fee for Paul is so low it’s insignificant, guessing like 5%. Kenny G even said Paul is getting a cut of the other Pokémon items in the same auction block
if there was no association with it to logan then maybe
