Where do I sign again?
Bidding in 2025 be like
Even if these buyers pay, I can’t say I’m too confident they’d stick around and maintain these pumps
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is that the gold star mewtwo haha
No it was a different gold star, 0 feedback buyers love gold stars
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The 0 feedback buyer after they win:
“Hi, I noticed there was a small surface scuff on the PSA slab when held to the light at just the right angle. I would like to cancel my order.”
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Again it’s not rich people it’s fools with money. There is a historical difference.
But tbh, I know ebay sells are corrupted and all cards are inflated, vintage is just less inflated.
If you focus on the non expensive under $50 raw market you can see it clear as day but the majority of people here don’t operate in that market.
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Ok so by your logic:
“They are all stupid people buying”
Gotcha, didn’t know stupid people had 5 figures to drop on cardboard. My bad.
This is a collectible market. Collectible markets operate in hype cycles, this can be seen in 2016, 2020, waifu japanese boom, SWSH boom a year ago?, 2025. In each of these instances people were paying multiples of last sold. Not only on 5 figure cards, but 6 figure cards as well (1st edition PSA 10 Neo Genesis Lugia in 2020). Are some cards going unpaid and therefore maybe manipulated? Yes. Do people pay more than last sold for collectibles, also yes. Cards can be manipulated and selling for 100% last sold, it’s not as black and white as you’re making it out to be. Like I’ve already shown you, I’ve been literally selling cards BIN for 2-3x what last sold was.
I mean I don’t like him but even Logan Paul had an idea of comps and he bought something that was pop 1 (illustrator).
His zard he paid more less market for and then chose the best copy he could find, which graded a BGS 10.
With the illustrator, he didn’t “overpay” on something that had a last sale of half that price.
Plus, he probably used it as a tax write off as he bought it for his fractional investment business.
It also got people into that platform, so made him more money (not sure if it was successful but the idea wasnt dumb).
But nice meme though, hope it didn’t take you too long to make.
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His charizard purchase from Gary was well above the previous sale. Also he paid above previous comps for 1st Ed base boxes, and baseically created the new market value.
Anyway I am glad you see the variance in why people can “overpay”. Many people today have strategies, good or bad, Logan is a great example of someone who paid above previous sales with a successful strategy.
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he paid 5.6m for a psa 10 illustrator that was known to be a psa 9 only a few months prior
he had to overpay massively for the bgs 10 zard because Gary didnt want to sell lol
anyway, this isn’t a hill im gunna die on, but im just saying that you claiming that dumb people cant have money to randomly splash on pokemon is just wrong
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Right, but he’s not dumb.
It also wasn’t bought from a public auction and not many copies were coming up.
I’m not saying never overpay, or that all overpayments are in organic - I’m referring to a 100% over payment which there have been several of, which is very weird.
Even Logan didn’t overpay by that much.
Anyway, vintage is a due a price rise as we’ve had 3 years of a bear market - I just think some of these headlining sales are not organic at all.
I mean, it got the grade - so not sure what you’re saying there (at least that would be most of this forums position, it’s a psa10 even if it was a 9 previously).
He also bought it for his business.
I remember he overpaid for the zard but I wouldn’t say it was massively overpaying.
He also bought into the rising market and knew it would make content for his channel.
He’s not stupid by any means.
Stupid people generally have less money. That’s how capitalism works haha.
Stupid people generally have less money. That’s how capitalism works haha.
This is a Pokemon forum, so won’t get too deep into it, but this a classic fallacy of tying the judgement of a person (how smart, how good, how deserving, etc.) to something that’s not directly correlated (how much money they have, the circumstances of their lives, etc.).
Also, this is misunderstanding how capitalism works in practice, and the large amount of contemporary research on micro and macro economics.
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Welcome to the forum.
But no offence, that was a long post to not really make a discernable point.
Getting wildly off topic now so this would be my last comment on this.
If you take 100 “smart” people and 100 “not smart” people (how to measure it, or what metrics, idk, maybe IQ) and see who makes more $ in a specific timeframe, I would bet that the smart group would have higher earnings than the other.
That is what I meant.
To conclude, Logan Paul isn’t a good example as someone who doesn’t know any better - absolutely everything he did in Pokemon was calculated.
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jesus and i had thought it had peaked at 8300 or so and started retracing…
How are you calling that a long post when yours was longer than theirs?
Capitalism is not a meritocracy. Intelligence has less to do with success than you presume.
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I said their post was long and didn’t make a point.
I made a point.