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eBay is solid, but people have complained about shill bidding with probstein on eBay since the dawn of time. Now that this happened on the new website, it vindicates all those complaints, even if he wasnât shill bidding on eBay. Keep in mind, probstein was on eBay for 20 years.
eBay has a shill bid problem. No other platform does like them. They simply donât care. Meanwhile fanatics actively removes known shill bids and ip bans them. I still think eBay is a good marketplace, they just donât do anything about shill bidding, and it affects both buyers and sellers. Now knowing this information about probstein, think about how people feel who bought from him over the past 20 years. It just shouldnât be allowed.
eBay doesnât care about fake items either, or price history (they could easily wipe away unpaid items from the record). Itâd be nice if theyâd clean those things up a bit. I was optimistic about this, but itâs hard to see a good ending to this story.
eBay also has some willddd stories out there that youâd think wouldnât pop up about a public company. eBay stalking scandal - Wikipedia
I am quite a cynic overall, but I found myself in Mondays video saying âthe shill bidding stuff is likely not true, because why would someone so rich risk so much for so littleâ but now I think back to blakes breaks, so many other scandals in and outside of pokemon. Itâs just sad. People suck. Companies are a lot of people all working together and they just about all suck too.
Itâs reddit so take it for what itâs worth, but I do have someone in my DMâs who showed me their email directly too. Would eBay have him back without all this resolved?
âUnless launching Snype was a way to force ebayâs handâ
The equivalent of approaching a mob boss with a nerf gun and demanding $10,000,000.
Now ebay will say âthe rate just went up 10%â in mob voice. Ebay owes Ricky nothing. They probably only took 3% on sales anyways. And Snype is already dead. Really no incentive for ebay to give him a good deal to come crawling back
Itâs to ebayâs benefit to have him back, given his sales volume. That said, I canât imagine he has any leverage to get a better rate after the Snype failure.
If I had to guess itâd maybe be more a short term thing. There were what, close to 20k listings?
If Snype needs time to relaunch they (and the consignors) probably want to move inventory. I donât think Ebay would give a crazy good deal, but I doubt theyâd turn down extra revenue for their 4Q results.
My gut says the website was such an incredible failure that they need to get these consignments moved before people withdraw everything and there is no barrier to him just using his old account on eBay to do it
Iâd start the process to get your items back from Rick. If Probstein is somehow allowed back on ebay, you will likely get poor sales results due to everything that happened.
i will take those shilled comps i won on this platform the other day cmonnn ship 
Snype maybe cover hole now
so we soon reveal more detail of snype idiotic
and deeper analysis more auction
more connection.
For its snype probstein: DO NOT DELETE 
I came across another interesting data point. Unsure if the claims are accurate.
They seem to have shut down the websocket stream last night where just visiting the website down page would still result in you getting a stream of all the ongoing auctions. I havenât peeked any of the GraphQL or other stuff, all my data captured was simply from the website sending it directly to me as a visitor.
Rick himself talking @1:30 about shill bidding claims and prevention on snype. He also goes more into detail about the snype feature/algorithm which is different than what was seen in the data being sent to website visitors about active auctions.
Do you think this scandal will negatively impact Probsteinâs business?
- Yes, heâs going out of business
- Yes, but heâll remain a niche, marred consignor
- No, people donât care as long as they can buy cards
Would you buy from Probstein after this?
- Yes
- No
I voted no, but I would probably still buy cards from him if he was the only option for a card I wanted/needed. Otherwise, there are sooo many other platforms to purchase from nowadays you dont really miss out on anything if you choose to avoid Probstein.
I would like to no longer support Probstein after this debacle, but he will eventually auction off a card that I desperately need for my collection, which will force my hand.
Shill bidding will never go away - it has always existed and will continue to exist despite this very public documentation. The best way that I can prevent shill bidding from impacting me is by putting in a single max bid and not participating in auctions where I think shilling is occurring. But beyond that, it is completely outside of our control.
I think this controversy will impact his business, but not meaningfully, if he stays on eBay. I canât see a world where snype makes a huge comeback. Itâs the perfect atmosphere to breed shilling, which has already been proven. And now the little trust that existed has eroded. I will not be using that platform.
I wouldnât buy from probstein before this.
This is the guy who dances slabs around on live streams so you canât see the cert #, makes fun of you if you ask him to hold it still for a second, takes advantage of people on combined shipping, and cultivates shilling. This guyâs entire character is a red flag to me
Shilled or not, if Iâm happy with the price of a card, and I really want it, Iâm gonna buy it. If Akabane walked up to me and offered me an illustrator for $50 Iâd take that too 