That makes sense. Although take the trophy pikachu cards, if 1st-3rd place were all printed on the same 121 card sheet, then theoretically 40 copies of each if no fillers were used. Right now PSA has seen less than 10 copies of each. Doesn’t mean there are 30 more ungraded copies floating around in a Japanese CEO desk somewhere, but if extra copies of these trophy cards are floating around it’s very possible there are extras from other years as well.
kpod:That makes sense. Although take the trophy pikachu cards, if 1st-3rd place were all printed on the same 121 card sheet, then theoretically 40 copies of each if no fillers were used. Right now PSA has seen less than 10 copies of each. Doesn’t mean there are 30 more ungraded copies floating around in a Japanese CEO desk somewhere, but if extra copies of these trophy cards are floating around it’s very possible there are extras from other years as well.
Not necessarily. The sheet could have contained 40 copies of each, or it could have contained 5-10 of each and the rest of the sheet could have been other cards.
I guess I would think each sheet when printing trophys/promos, was for a specific event. Not multiple years worth of trophys or multiple special events worth of cards on a single sheet.
kpod:I’m sure they are printed on the same sheets as any other series. I don’t know the total number of cards on a sheet, but that should at least tell you the minimum number of actual copies out there.
Sheets are generally 121 cards, but not every card on the sheet has to be the same.
It is also possible for filler cards to be added to sheets if not as many copies need printing.
Japanese sheets are only 64 cards no?
kpod:I guess I would think each sheet when printing trophys/promos, was for a specific event. Not multiple years worth of trophys or multiple special events worth of cards on a single sheet.
Possible, but we have no way of knowing for certain.
Unless someone has seen an uncut sheet and doesn’t want that getting out
Does anybody seriously believe someone has the printer from 1999/2000 at home and is printing and cutting trophy cards? Hahahaha some people watch too much TV it seems.
Does anybody seriously believe someone has the printer from 1999/2000 at home and is printing and cutting trophy cards? Hahahaha some people watch too much TV it seems.
I mean is there any preventing that from happening?
Some rare ink thats no longer produced? Some factory worker that died with the secret recipe?
poke-geri:Does anybody seriously believe someone has the printer from 1999/2000 at home and is printing and cutting trophy cards? Hahahaha some people watch too much TV it seems.
I mean is there any preventing that from happening?
Some rare ink thats no longer produced? Some factory worker that died with the secret recipe?
lol
poke-geri:Does anybody seriously believe someone has the printer from 1999/2000 at home and is printing and cutting trophy cards? Hahahaha some people watch too much TV it seems.
I mean is there any preventing that from happening?
Some rare ink thats no longer produced? Some factory worker that died with the secret recipe?
reality.
Its all a meme, but humor me for a second. If there were copies being printed today on old blanks.
How would we be able to tell the difference?
They had good value even 20 years ago. Had extras been around on a mass scale, 20-100, they would have popped up then.
Its all a meme, but humor me for a second. If there were copies being printed today on old blanks.
How would we be able to tell the difference?
Presumably the original ink would be faded or mixed with containment particles after sitting for twenty years.
casual:Its all a meme, but humor me for a second. If there were copies being printed today on old blanks.
How would we be able to tell the difference?
Presumably the original ink would be faded or mixed with containment particles after sitting for twenty years.
Interesting! Any writeup about that? I’m sure this has come up in sports/historical docs
qwachansey:Presumably the original ink would be faded or mixed with containment particles after sitting for twenty years.
Interesting! Any writeup about that? I’m sure this has come up in sports/historical docs
I’ll search for some. I’m into calligraphy and there are special storage protections people take for bottling expensive ink that I doubt were taken for mass producing Pokémon cards (assuming promos were printed same equipment as set cards). Otherwise the pigment can fade.
Edit: here’s a basic run up. The main issue would be the ink sitting in the container or printer cartridge for twenty years. You generally shake a bottle of ink every time you use it for smooth pigment. With printer ink this isn’t manually necessary but twenty years of sitting could do damage.
penhabit.com/ufaqs/does-ink-go-bad-what-if-my-ink-has-a-best-by-date/
@pokeg,another one buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/h476409962 ?
No that copy was actually awarded. They blurred out the name of the winner.
yeah i just saw the blur and skipped over it because it was too similar color to the card oopps.
Hey @prochaos I’m wondering what you think of this thread. Scans of nameless Neo 1/2/3 trophies where the scans are over a decade old. Young Pkonno or someone in a similar position? pokegym.net/community/index.php?threads/japanese-trophy-cards-pre-2003.49372/
IIRC there was also a sale of 8? snap pokemon cards in the late 2000s, should we assume it was a similar situation to pkonno today, or simply someone incredible at sourcing? No Magikarp in that deal.
Hey @prochaos I’m wondering what you think of this thread. Scans of nameless Neo 1/2/3 trophies where the scans are over a decade old. Young Pkonno or someone in a similar position? pokegym.net/community/index.php?threads/japanese-trophy-cards-pre-2003.49372/
Those scans were from the Silver Bible or Trainer Mags. There weren’t names on those boy/girl trainers that were featured on publications.
qwachansey:Hey @prochaos I’m wondering what you think of this thread. Scans of nameless Neo 1/2/3 trophies where the scans are over a decade old. Young Pkonno or someone in a similar position? pokegym.net/community/index.php?threads/japanese-trophy-cards-pre-2003.49372/
Those scans were from the Silver Bible or Trainer Mags. There weren’t names on those boy/girl trainers that were featured on publications.
Thanks! I am humbled by your knowledge
One more to add
page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e447138629
This one has been listed for a while but wasn‘t included in this thread yet:
page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v707990505