# WTT for PSA 10 1st Ed Base|Shadowless|Rainbow Charizard **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy & Trade\ **Tags:** buy-section\ **Created:** [January 22, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344 "2018-01-22T08:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/1 "2018-01-22T08:22:00Z")
**Items I’m looking for:** ``` PSA 10 1st Ed Base Charizard PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard PSA 10 Burning Shadows Rainbow Hyper Rare Charizard (any amount) ``` **Items I have to trade:** **For trade of the big two Charizards only:** Shadowless Base Set Booster Box • Green Wing Charizard • Single Country Code • Clear Wrap • Long packs visible • Can provide provenance of previous sale PSA 9 1st Ed Base Charizard PSA 9 Shadowless Charizard (x3) PSA 8 Shadowless Charizard PSA 10 1st Ed Base Blastoise (Thick) PSA 10 1st Ed Base Poliwrath (Thick) PSA 10 1st Ed Base Nidoking PSA 10 1st Ed Base Machamp PSA 10 Shadowless Zapdos **For trade for any of the 3 cards listed:** ``` PSA 9 1st Ed Base: Alakazam Chansey Clefairy Gyarados Hitmonchan (Thick) Magneton Venusaur (Gray) PSA 9 Shadowless: Alakazam x2 Blastoise x2 Chansey Gyarados x2 Hitmonchan Magneton Mewtwo x2 Nidoking Ninetales Poliwrath Raichu x2 Venusaur Zapdos PSA 9 1st Ed Shining Charizard PSA 9 Staff Charizard PSA 9 Reverse Legendary Collection Charizard PSA 8 Gold Star Rayquaza PSA 10 Ex Dragon Charizard Mint nonholo Shadowless set NM~+ nonholo 1st Ed Base set Mint nonholo Neo Destiny 1st Edition set ``` ---
**Author:** ![trainingguyjp](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trainingguyjp/32/244_2.png) [@trainingguyjp](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/trainingguyjp)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/2 "2018-01-22T09:38:30Z")
I don’t have either of the items you’re looking for but I’ve been hunting a Shadowless PSA 9 Chansey if you’re willing to sell it. ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/3 "2018-01-22T21:29:55Z")
What value do you put on all the trade items listed? ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/4 "2018-01-23T00:02:31Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > What value do you put on all the trade items listed? Market value. Are you asking for a total amount of all the items added together? ---
**Author:** ![thecardguyz](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/thecardguyz/32/145532_2.png) [@thecardguyz](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/thecardguyz)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/5 "2018-01-23T05:47:14Z")
Pmed. ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/6 "2018-01-24T02:04:07Z")
I’ve had a few PMs here that are interested in some of the cards I have but don’t have the big two that I’m looking - the only other card I’d really be down to trade for would be the rainbow/hyper rare Charizard in PSA 10 (any amount of them). ---
**Author:** ![cinnaminhbun](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cinnaminhbun/32/780_2.png) [@cinnaminhbun](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cinnaminhbun)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/7 "2018-01-24T04:31:39Z")
> [@hypernova](#): > > I’ve had a few PMs here that are interested in some of the cards I have but don’t have the big two that I’m looking - the only other card I’d really be down to trade for would be the rainbow/hyper rare Charizard in PSA 10 (any amount of them). Interested in a trade for your PSA 9 1st Edition Chansey? I have a hyper rare Charizard in PSA 10. Just throwing it out there and giving it a shot. ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/8 "2018-01-24T04:52:22Z")
> [@cinnaminhbun](#): > > > [@hypernova](#): > > > > I’ve had a few PMs here that are interested in some of the cards I have but don’t have the big two that I’m looking - the only other card I’d really be down to trade for would be the rainbow/hyper rare Charizard in PSA 10 (any amount of them). > > Interested in a trade for your PSA 9 1st Edition Chansey? I have a hyper rare Charizard in PSA 10. Just throwing it out there and giving it a shot. Not as a 1:1 trade. I realize this is gonna be a bit difficult since other peeps might not have multiple HR Charizards to trade for cards whose values are \>$350~, but ya never know 😊 ---
**Author:** ![blasturtle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/blasturtle/32/2626_2.png) [@blasturtle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/blasturtle)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/9 "2018-01-24T05:47:04Z")
PMd ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/10 "2018-01-24T06:08:21Z")
> [@hypernova](#): > > > [@KingPokemon](#): > > > > What value do you put on all the trade items listed? > > Market value. Are you asking for a total amount of all the items added together? Yes… ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/11 "2018-01-24T06:29:56Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > > [@hypernova](#): > > > > Market value. Are you asking for a total amount of all the items added together? > > Yes… Tough to pinpoint the value exactly, but I’d approximate it around the 30-35k mark for all the items on the list. I haven’t taken a close look at the 1st ed. nonholo set, which might place the value at the higher end or more. I also have quite a few other things not on the list (2x Gold Star Rayquaza (1 PSA 8, 1 to be submitted), 1x Gold Star Charizard (to be submitted - PSA9+)) that can easily bump the total value to over 40k. Would be willing to take a plane trip to do the deal in person for the big 2 that I’m looking for. ---
**Author:** ![yz2428](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/yz2428/32/564_2.png) [@yz2428](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/yz2428)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/12 "2018-01-24T07:12:52Z")
“PSA 10 Burning Shadows Rainbow Hyper Rare Charizard (any amount)” Wow hypernova is going ALL in on this card. That’s brave. ---
**Author:** ![yz2428](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/yz2428/32/564_2.png) [@yz2428](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/yz2428)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/13 "2018-01-24T07:31:11Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > > [@hypernova](#): > > > > Market value. Are you asking for a total amount of all the items added together? > > Yes… **JUST THOUGHT I’D HELP A GOOD FRIEND GARY OUT!!! Just my own personal estimate to give a third-party valuation. 😊** Just thought I’d throw this out here to see if there’s any interest Items I’m looking for: PSA 10 1st Ed Base Charizard PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard PSA 10 Burning Shadows Rainbow Hyper Rare Charizard (any amount) Items I have to trade: PSA 10 1st Ed Base Blastoise (Thick) ----- $6000 PSA 10 1st Ed Base Poliwrath (Thick) ---- $1800 PSA 10 1st Ed Base Nidoking ----- $2000 PSA 10 Shadowless Zapdos ------ $1000 BGS 10 1st Ed Dark Charizard #4 ------- $1200 BGS 10 Japanese Base Set Charizard ------ $1000? probably too high given that PSA 10 sells for about 400 atm and Japanese cards are not popular **SUBTOTAL: $13000** PSA 9 1st Ed Base: Alakazam — $500 Chansey ---- $400 Clefairy ---- $350 Gyarados ---- $400 Hitmonchan (Thick) — $350 Magneton — $350 Ninetales ---- $400 Venusaur (Gray) ---- $900? **SUBTOTAL: $3600** PSA 8 1st Ed Base: Blastoise — $550 Poliwrath — $200 **SUBTOTAL: $750** PSA 9 Shadowless: Alakazam x2 ---- $200x2 Blastoise x2 ----- $550x2 Chansey ----- $700 Gyarados x2 ----- $175x2 Hitmonchan -----$150 Magneton ------ $125 Mewtwo x2 ------ $200x2 Nidoking ------ $200 Ninetales ------ $175 Poliwrath ------$150 Raichu x2 ------$350x2 Venusaur ------$250 Zapdos ------ $175 **SUBTOTAL: $4700** PSA 9 1st Ed Shining Charizard ---- $900 PSA 9 Staff Charizard ---- $450 PSA 9 Reverse Legendary Collection Charizard ---- $600 Mint nonholo Shadowless set ---- no idea? $300? $500? NM~+ nonholo 1st Ed Base set ---- no idea? $500? $1000? **SUBTOTAL: $1950 + unknowns** **GRAND TOTAL: $24,000 + unknowns** **guessing with 1 std deviation thrown in, I’d say this lot could be valued at 21,500-$26,500 (+unknowns), so I’m 68% confident in this assessment~ some people might put in a overall lot deduction rate (~10%) due to the mixture and # of cards, so that might take the final tally down to $19,500-$24,000(+unknowns). just food for thought…** **My final verdict is that this lot is only worth one of the cards: shadowless PSA 10 OR 1st ed PSA 10. cash or additional cards would be necessary to obtain both said cards.** **GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL~~** ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/14 "2018-01-24T08:01:11Z")
> [@yz2428](#): > > > [@KingPokemon](#): > > > > Yes… > > **JUST THOUGHT I’D HELP A GOOD FRIEND GARY OUT!!! Just my own personal estimate to give a third-party valuation. 😊** I’d say your estimates are quite a bit low on the big bois and the PSA 9 1st ed, but pretty good for the rest. Wasn’t expecting to trade all of it in one go for both 1st ed base and shadowless, just testing the waters to see if one or the other might rustle out of the woodwork. Haven’t heard a peep about either of the big fish, but there’s some interest with the hyper rares 😊 For sure my favorite card artwork - after much consideration I’ve figured that I’d much rather have many hyper rare Charizards than try to get a set of PSA 9 1st Ed or PSA 9 Shadowless. Probably not as good of a long-term investment as the PSA 1st Ed Base or shadowless, but I’ve grown a bit exhausted with the ebay rat race over the past month or so… ---
**Author:** ![trainingguyjp](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trainingguyjp/32/244_2.png) [@trainingguyjp](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/trainingguyjp)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/15 "2018-01-24T08:18:23Z")
I agree that it should be a bit more. Those estimates are fairly close though. May I ask why you want to trade for non WOTC era product (Hyper Rare zard)? ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:34am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/16 "2018-01-24T08:34:52Z")
> [@trainingguyjp](#): > > I agree that it should be a bit more. Those estimates are fairly close though. > > May I ask why you want to trade for non WOTC era product (Hyper Rare zard)? It’s by far my favorite-looking card. Not my most desired–that’d be the 1st ed base and shadowless charizard–but if I were to ever swim in my collection Scrooge McDuck style, I’d rather be neck deep in hyper rare charizards than the other things I have ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ ---
**Author:** ![trainingguyjp](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trainingguyjp/32/244_2.png) [@trainingguyjp](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/trainingguyjp)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/17 "2018-01-24T08:41:16Z")
Can I sway you to only trade or sell those cards for a 1st Edition or Shadowless zard? Lol Getting rid of wotc era stuff… ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:03am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/18 "2018-01-24T09:03:43Z")
> [@yz2428](#): > > > [@KingPokemon](#): > > > > Yes… > > **JUST THOUGHT I’D HELP A GOOD FRIEND GARY OUT!!! Just my own personal estimate to give a third-party valuation. 😊** > > Just thought I’d throw this out here to see if there’s any interest > > Items I’m looking for: > > PSA 10 1st Ed Base Charizard > PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard > PSA 10 Burning Shadows Rainbow Hyper Rare Charizard (any amount) > > Items I have to trade: > > PSA 10 1st Ed Base Blastoise (Thick) ----- $6000 > PSA 10 1st Ed Base Poliwrath (Thick) ---- $1800 > PSA 10 1st Ed Base Nidoking ----- $2000 > PSA 10 Shadowless Zapdos ------ $1000 > BGS 10 1st Ed Dark Charizard #4 ------- $1200 > BGS 10 Japanese Base Set Charizard ------ $1000? probably too high given that PSA 10 sells for about 400 atm and Japanese cards are not popular > > **SUBTOTAL: $13000** > > PSA 9 1st Ed Base: > Alakazam — $500 > Chansey ---- $400 > Clefairy ---- $350 > Gyarados ---- $400 > Hitmonchan (Thick) — $350 > Magneton — $350 > Ninetales ---- $400 > Venusaur (Gray) ---- $900? > > **SUBTOTAL: $3600** > > PSA 8 1st Ed Base: > Blastoise — $550 > Poliwrath — $200 > > **SUBTOTAL: $750** > > PSA 9 Shadowless: > Alakazam x2 ---- $200x2 > Blastoise x2 ----- $550x2 > Chansey ----- $700 > Gyarados x2 ----- $175x2 > Hitmonchan -----$150 > Magneton ------ $125 > Mewtwo x2 ------ $200x2 > Nidoking ------ $200 > Ninetales ------ $175 > Poliwrath ------$150 > Raichu x2 ------$350x2 > Venusaur ------$250 > Zapdos ------ $175 > > **SUBTOTAL: $4700** > > PSA 9 1st Ed Shining Charizard ---- $900 > PSA 9 Staff Charizard ---- $450 > PSA 9 Reverse Legendary Collection Charizard ---- $600 > Mint nonholo Shadowless set ---- no idea? $300? $500? > NM~+ nonholo 1st Ed Base set ---- no idea? $500? $1000? > > **SUBTOTAL: $1950 + unknowns** > > **GRAND TOTAL: $24,000 + unknowns** > > **guessing with 1 std deviation thrown in, I’d say this lot could be valued at 21,500-$26,500 (+unknowns), so I’m 68% confident in this assessment~ some people might put in a overall lot deduction rate (~10%) due to the mixture and # of cards, so that might take the final tally down to $19,500-$24,000(+unknowns). just food for thought…** > > **My final verdict is that this lot is only worth one of the cards: shadowless PSA 10 OR 1st ed PSA 10. cash or additional cards would be necessary to obtain both said cards.** > > **GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL~~** Well done yz and thanks. I went through it and decided if someone came to me to buy that collection what would I pay. With large lots I would have to assume about 25% profit. Of course, it would take me a long time to piece it out especially since I already have multiples of nearly all. So nothing fast or unique. So what about the value of a strong and thick 1st Edition 10? Of course several have sold at 20k though mine would be worth more cause none are popping up anymore and this ones a beauty. Much deserving of a PSA 10 which not all are. Considering all that, I’d recommend hyper sell his off and make a little more then turn around and see what’s available then. ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/19 "2018-01-24T09:32:37Z")
> [@KingPokemon](#): > > ]Well done yz and thanks. I went through it and decided if someone came to me to buy that collection what would I pay. With large lots I would have to assume about 25% profit. Of course, it would take me a long time to piece it out especially since I already have multiples of nearly all. So nothing fast or unique. > > So what about the value of a strong and thick 1st Edition 10? Of course several have sold at 20k though mine would be worth more cause none are popping up anymore and this ones a beauty. Much deserving of a PSA 10 which not all are. > > Considering all that, I’d recommend hyper sell his off and make a little more then turn around and see what’s available then. That boy yz underpriced several of my biggest cards. Tell ya what, I’ll throw in a set of MAGA hats in each color and we meet up in Vegas to make a deal for that 1st Ed Charry 😉 ---
**Author:** ![blasturtle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/blasturtle/32/2626_2.png) [@blasturtle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/blasturtle)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344/20 "2018-02-01T04:25:49Z")
Bump for @hypernova We finished an awesome trade today and I couldn’t be happier with it! Super easy transaction with no worries at all! Thanks for helping me take one step/Card closer to finishing my PSA 9 1st edition Base Set! [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/wtt-for-psa-10-1st-ed-base-shadowless-rainbow-charizard/19344.md?page=2)