# Worthy of a BGS 9.5 possibly? **URL:** \ **Category:** Grading\ **Tags:** charizard, cross-grading, bgs-9-5\ **Created:** [March 11, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161 "2023-03-11T18:00:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alleybro](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/alleybro/32/244_2.png) [@alleybro](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/alleybro)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/1 "2023-03-11T18:00:27Z")
PSA new graded Charizard shadowless possible BGS upgrade? A BGS 9.5 hopefully but let me know what you guys think , also the what looks like a scratch on the holo on the bottom right was on the slab and no longer there šŸ˜‡ ![image](https://www.elitefourum.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/7/679cbae8ca00fba9b1df323bbc221ca1e21147e0.jpeg) ![image](https://www.elitefourum.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/d/fd8cb8388a34fe420fae20a881f46bb6bee4184e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![eeveeteam](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eeveeteam/32/2219_2.png) [@eeveeteam](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eeveeteam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/2 "2023-03-11T18:06:26Z")
Lucky it got a 9 in the first place. Centering is off, all corners have a white spot, and back left edge has a terrible cut. I wouldnā€™t try for a 9.5, Iā€™d be thankful its a PSA 9 ---
**Author:** ![pwavy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pwavy/32/247653_2.png) [@pwavy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pwavy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/3 "2023-03-11T18:08:58Z")
Centering is probably max 9 subgrade so would have to hope corners hold up. Think keeping it a PSA 9 is better than hoping for a weak BGS 9.5 because I donā€™t think thereā€™s any chance this gets a ā€œtrueā€ 9.5 ---
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/4 "2023-03-11T18:25:27Z")
its a solid 9 to me imo > [@eeveeteam](#): > > Lucky it got a 9 in the first place. Centering is off, all corners have a white spot, and back left edge has a terrible cut. ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/5 "2023-03-11T18:25:55Z")
Short answer is yes itā€™s possible. Good luck with it. > **[Pichu BGS 9.5 Gem Mint Neo Genesis 12/111 Holo Rare Pokemon Card 1995 POP 5 ! ...](https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314455260213?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Fr2efc5XTQu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=0Dw3pz7pRTK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Pichu BGS 9.5 Gem Mint Neo Genesis 12/111 Holo Rare Pokemon Card 1995 POP 5 ! at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products. ---
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/6 "2023-03-11T18:27:45Z")
> [@jac2357](#): > > Short answer is yes itā€™s possible. Good luck with it. long answer waste $100 to crossgrade it for bgs to send it back to you ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/7 "2023-03-11T18:36:21Z")
They asked if itā€™s possible so imo yes itā€™s possible. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![eeveeteam](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eeveeteam/32/2219_2.png) [@eeveeteam](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eeveeteam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/8 "2023-03-11T18:56:28Z")
I am not getting trolled today. This is a 6-8 card, not a 9. Look at the cut on the edge ![Screenshot_20230311_125527_Chrome](https://www.elitefourum.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/d/1dace80e7e28f64269165862cd6add82eb0b99ad.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sircharleszard](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/sircharleszard/32/27316_2.png) [@sircharleszard](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/sircharleszard)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/9 "2023-03-11T19:13:47Z")
Solid card, I think the 9 is likely as high as it would be though. (Which is still freaking stunning!!) As far as the cut on the edge, I wonder if that is just light reflecting off of the beveled edge from the scan? If it is an actual bad cut, then it is lucky to get a PSA 9, especially with the PSA ā€œCharizard Taxā€ šŸ˜… ---
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/10 "2023-03-11T19:21:18Z")
6 is too low, 8 is fair, but 9 is fine imo ---
**Author:** ![wisewailmer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/wisewailmer/32/179572_2.png) [@wisewailmer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/wisewailmer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/11 "2023-03-11T19:23:25Z")
grading in a nutshell ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/12 "2023-03-11T19:27:17Z")
Yep. Hence it has a chance. Just so itā€™s clear Iā€™m not impressed with most 10s I see. Iā€™d be a harsh grader and a 10 would actually be amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/13 "2023-03-11T19:37:36Z")
I agree with others. This would most likely not get a BGS 9.5. ---
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/14 "2023-03-11T19:46:03Z")
> [@Dyl](#): > > most likely not will not ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/15 "2023-03-11T19:50:41Z")
Hard to know for sure. Iā€™ve seen some pretty gnarly 9.5s before. šŸ™ƒ ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/16 "2023-03-11T19:53:47Z")
Only some lol. Thereā€™s a lot. If this was trying for a psa 10 itā€™s very slim but for bgs 9.5 totally diff story. ---
**Author:** ![admiral](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/admiral/32/27289_2.png) [@admiral](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/admiral)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/17 "2023-03-11T20:14:38Z")
BGS 9.5s mean nothing to me I assume every BGS 9.5 is a regraded PSA 9 ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/18 "2023-03-11T20:21:26Z")
Yep, this is most often the case. Some larger submitters on the sports forums have found that BGS 9.5s with at least two 10 subgrades have a better shot at a PSA 10, and anything less than that is almost always destined to be a PSA 9. Of course, grading and subgrades are subjective and inconsistent so those findings may mean nothing anyway. šŸ«  ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/19 "2023-03-11T20:25:20Z")
Bingo we have a winner. ---
**Author:** ![thurco](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/thurco/32/40589_2.png) [@thurco](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/thurco)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161/20 "2023-03-11T21:38:00Z")
That rough cut back left edge on its own should knock it past a 9. Take the lucky grade and run [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/worthy-of-a-bgs-9-5-possibly/40161.md?page=2)