# Why don't people just stamp 1st edition on cards?

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**Created:** [January 7, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349 "2021-01-07T07:13:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![w7west](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/w7west/32/1596_2.png) [@w7west](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/w7west)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/1 "2021-01-07T07:13:08Z")

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I remember seeing a 1st edition base set booster pack for sale for $10 in a store when I was a kid. My thoughts at the time were wow you would have to be a sucker to buy those. Someone could just take a normal card and stamp it first edition.  
Now that we are big boy grown up kids, the same thought struck me. Why don’t people just stamps first edition on stuff? Surely that would be easier than faking the entire card. Like how hard could it be to fake something like that? I’m not suggesting anyone do this, but rather just curious what people think about it.

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**Author:** ![null\_user](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/null_user/32/97793_2.png) [@null\_user](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/null_user)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/2 "2021-01-07T07:26:59Z")

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its not that hard to do, TCA Gaming did a video where he had a fake 1st ed stamp on a card and cleaned it off. Rather see Pokemon CO reprint 1st ed shadowless with all cards this time in it.

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**Author:** ![parkermrparker](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/parkermrparker/32/1329_2.png) [@parkermrparker](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/parkermrparker)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/3 "2021-01-07T07:27:35Z")

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If unlimited cards were still affordable i would be doing this 🤣😂

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**Author:** ![alienlien](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/alienlien/32/1136_2.png) [@alienlien](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/alienlien)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:28am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/4 "2021-01-07T07:28:21Z")

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It’s all been done before, currently there is no convincing 1st edition stamp (that I have seen).

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**Author:** ![papafrankgod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/papafrankgod/32/52139_2.png) [@papafrankgod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/papafrankgod)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/5 "2021-01-07T07:56:09Z")

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They do this

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**Author:** ![fiery](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fiery/32/1370_2.png) [@fiery](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fiery)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/6 "2021-01-07T08:34:19Z")

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[www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1)

It may be easy enough to do, but not good enough…yet.

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**Author:** ![w7west](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/w7west/32/1596_2.png) [@w7west](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/w7west)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/7 "2021-01-07T09:20:42Z")

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> [@fiery](#):
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> [www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1)
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> It may be easy enough to do, but not good enough…yet.

Holy… wow that thread is something. 10 year old me is feeling vindicated while 31 year old me is frantically examining 1st ed stamps under the microscope.

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**Author:** ![smokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smokemon/32/36734_2.png) [@smokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smokemon)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/8 "2021-01-07T11:03:19Z")

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> [@w7west](#):
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> > [@fiery](#):
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> > [www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1)
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> > It may be easy enough to do, but not good enough…yet.
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> Holy… wow that thread is something. 10 year old me is feeling vindicated while 31 year old me is frantically examining 1st ed stamps under the microscope.

I think I just spent an hour reading and digging into that thread. Felt like a movie

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**Author:** ![mosstastic](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mosstastic/32/1992_2.png) [@mosstastic](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mosstastic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/9 "2021-01-07T11:21:52Z")

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> [@smokemon](#):
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> > [@w7west](#):
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> > Holy… wow that thread is something. 10 year old me is feeling vindicated while 31 year old me is frantically examining 1st ed stamps under the microscope.
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> I think I just spent an hour reading and digging into that thread. Felt like a movie

I too read every single comment.

It kind of ended anticlimactic. PSA provided the guarantee but several times vouched for its legitimacy. I wonder what changed their minds. Frankly, the whole thread was concerning and now I’m running to check my cards. I’m hoping quality control has improved since then

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**Author:** ![brendantheclayboy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/brendantheclayboy/32/227237_2.png) [@brendantheclayboy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/brendantheclayboy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/10 "2021-01-07T11:23:46Z")

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> [@mosstastic](#):
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“I’m hoping quality control has improved since then”

Don’t count on it.

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**Author:** ![mcorey777](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mcorey777/32/1491_2.png) [@mcorey777](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mcorey777)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/11 "2021-01-07T12:15:13Z")

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This thread is great for awareness but I’m hoping it doesn’t give scammers a fancy idea.

Stuff like this ruins collecting for some people. Not many people want to continue on after getting robbed.

@w7west Any chance you can change the threads title to something that doesn’t sound horrible. Maybe this for a title: Are fake 1st edition stamped cards out there?

The current title makes it sound like a good idea to fake stamps. We don’t want to encourage people.

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**Author:** ![zorloth](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/zorloth/32/1561_2.png) [@zorloth](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/zorloth)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/12 "2021-01-07T12:25:13Z")

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Similar concerns exist in MTG re; trimmed Beta. The reality, though, is that there is always a way to authenticate mass-produced items. People authenticate Alpha by looking at the alignment of text, which consistently differs by like half a millimeter between the Alpha and Beta print runs. To the untrained eye, though, a well-trimmed Beta can look damn near identical to an Alpha.

AFAIK, no one has developed authentication methods like this for detecting 1st Ed. Pokemon cards. But if fake 1st Ed. stamps become a bigger issue in the future, people will almost assuredly develop a way to authenticate them.

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**Author:** ![kinggr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kinggr/32/1586_2.png) [@kinggr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kinggr)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/13 "2021-01-07T16:34:07Z")

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> [@fiery](#):
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> [www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-potential-fake-stamp-resolved/17033/1)
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> It may be easy enough to do, but not good enough…yet.

Yeah, thanks for linking that, it was a great read

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**Author:** ![gildri](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gildri/32/2045_2.png) [@gildri](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gildri)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/14 "2021-01-07T18:07:35Z")

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I’ve always had this fear as well. Faking an entire card is hard and expensive and we see these fakes all the time. Faking a tiny black stamp seems 100x easier and cheaper. Maybe they are just so good no one can tell and half of the 1st editions are fake now?

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**Author:** ![kaldoverde](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kaldoverde/32/787_2.png) [@kaldoverde](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kaldoverde)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/15 "2021-01-07T18:28:48Z")

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I’ve been too busy faking ice cream popsicles for the Zarude promo, but once that well runs dry I may turn to faking 1st ed stamps for a living instead.

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**Author:** ![mosstastic](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mosstastic/32/1992_2.png) [@mosstastic](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mosstastic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/16 "2021-01-07T18:33:59Z")

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It’s impossible and no one should try it

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**Author:** ![smokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smokemon/32/36734_2.png) [@smokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smokemon)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/17 "2021-01-07T18:40:44Z")

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> [@zorloth](#):
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> … a well-trimmed Beta can look damn near identical to an Alpha.

Is that what they mean when Brad looks like Chad?

![](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/b/d/bd9979e86ff29d2a74f12fe38e8dbbfb92425d34.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/18 "2021-01-07T18:45:51Z")

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2 words:cert number

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**Author:** ![kingboo64](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingboo64/32/1534_2.png) [@kingboo64](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kingboo64)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/19 "2021-01-07T18:58:55Z")

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> [@gildri](#):
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> Maybe they are just so good no one can tell and half of the 1st editions are fake now?

X files theme plays

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**Author:** ![zorloth](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/zorloth/32/1561_2.png) [@zorloth](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/zorloth)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/why-dont-people-just-stamp-1st-edition-on-cards/31349/20 "2021-01-07T19:41:22Z")

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> [@smokemon](#):
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> > [@zorloth](#):
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> > … a well-trimmed Beta can look damn near identical to an Alpha.
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> Is that what they mean when Brad looks like Chad?
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> ![](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/b/d/bd9979e86ff29d2a74f12fe38e8dbbfb92425d34.jpeg)

Ok, that’s actually pretty funny lol. Totally unintended double-meaning.

I don’t understand that photo, though. It’s the exact same person on both sides?

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