# What's the lore behind Team Rocket's Moltres? **URL:** \ **Category:** Question\ **Tags:** moltres, team-rocket\ **Created:** [May 25, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254 "2025-05-25T00:04:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![amuletcoin420](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/amuletcoin420/32/185058_2.png) [@amuletcoin420](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/amuletcoin420)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/1 "2025-05-25T00:04:28Z")
what’s the lore behind team rocket’s moltres? i feel like all the other trainer/pokemon pairings kind of make sense as they were either used by you in the game or by the game characters. but team rocket doesn’t ever capture moltres (unless im forgetting) in the games and Archer doesn’t use Moltres as a Pokemon in HGSS. ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/f/4/f458358938f1e34682cdea6fc4baf10464bb4374.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![koala](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/koala/32/1805_2.png) [@koala](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/koala)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/2 "2025-05-25T01:49:40Z")
It’s a combination of 4 things I’m aware of - Tribute to past Rocket’s cards (Rocket’s Moltres, Rocket’s Moltres ex) - Team Rocket in the Pokémon Adventures manga did capture the 3 Kanto legendary birds (all 3 are present in the set) - The set uses FRLG and HGSS Rocket characters as gameplay archetypes but it’s been hinted in previous sets (e.g. Ethan) that not all Pokémon will be related to the character - In-game characters have a limited set of Pokémon (e.g. Archer only has Houndour, Koffing, Houndoom) - TPC experiments with the Rocket theme on Pokémon they did not use in the games/manga - Like previous Rocket sets (e.g. Rocket’s Snorlax) - Proton’s Spidops, HGSS Grunt’s Orbeetle ---
**Author:** ![anthony\_CCG](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/anthony_ccg/32/282431_2.png) [@anthony\_CCG](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/anthony_CCG)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/3 "2025-05-25T02:14:46Z")
In the manga Team Rocket captured the three legendary birds to create " **Thu-Fi-Zer**" ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/3/3/3367439dbdfa9d27f80b3e57fb9a684c993c4685.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DarthEevee](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dartheevee/32/219955_2.png) [@DarthEevee](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/DarthEevee)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/4 "2025-05-25T02:26:03Z")
On top of everything Koala said, TPC has at times experimented with what if scenarios. USUM’s and ORAS’s postgames are a good example. Since (team rockets portion of) the set is based on FRLG and HGSS, in FRLG there’s a subplot of a couple rockets trying to get into mount ember on 1 island. Imagine if they catch moltres ---
**Author:** ![Parallax](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/parallax/32/197209_2.png) [@Parallax](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Parallax)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/5 "2025-05-25T08:49:13Z")
All i see is a naked butler in black underwear. Sorry what was the question again? ---
**Author:** ![rtas](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rtas/32/257427_2.png) [@rtas](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/rtas)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/6 "2025-05-25T20:03:02Z")
James was a Moltres type, the lore goes deep.. ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/6/e/6ece51e8d99b369f96bf949d7cb5cee9ac8a04ea.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jupitersailfish](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jupitersailfish/32/838_2.png) [@jupitersailfish](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jupitersailfish)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/7 "2025-05-25T20:23:24Z")
WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!? LMFAO 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![stagger12](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stagger12/32/290368_2.png) [@stagger12](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stagger12)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/8 "2025-05-25T21:19:55Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lUiikWgnHrM/maxresdefault.jpg "Rubber Chicken - try not to laugh") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUiikWgnHrM) ---
**Author:** ![SolemnStar](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/solemnstar/32/289983_2.png) [@SolemnStar](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/SolemnStar)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/9 "2025-05-25T21:43:47Z")
I’m missing something here. Does that say “the 33est vs legendary bird pokemon”? and also lol. Legendary dodrio. ---
**Author:** ![Drew12](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/drew12/32/161497_2.png) [@Drew12](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Drew12)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 10:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/10 "2025-05-25T22:38:31Z")
It’s from the manga ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/whats-the-lore-behind-team-rockets-moltres/56254/11 "2025-05-25T23:16:14Z")
Chapter 33 Versus the Legendary Bird Pokemon