# What would you rather have? PSA 10 1st Edition Shadowless Charizard Vs. Illustrator Pikachu PSA 7 **URL:** \ **Category:** Collecting\ **Tags:** opinion, illustrator, charizard\ **Created:** [November 21, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401 "2025-11-21T14:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trophycollector24](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trophycollector24/32/107319_2.png) [@trophycollector24](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/trophycollector24)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/1 "2025-11-21T14:22:49Z")
Good Morning Guys, Wanted to see which one you would rather have in your collection and reasons why? Also let’s discuss price comparison between the two. 1st Edition Shadowless PSA 10 Charizard VS PSA 7 Illustrator Pikachu ---
**Author:** ![c0ll3ct0r](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/c0ll3ct0r/32/26306_2.png) [@c0ll3ct0r](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/c0ll3ct0r)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/2 "2025-11-21T14:36:33Z")
![Gif de Charizard | Pokémon™ Amino](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/7/8/78734ef87d578c8374580700fd8ddc6fe562878a.gif) ---
**Author:** ![RabidSquirtle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rabidsquirtle/32/236211_2.png) [@RabidSquirtle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/RabidSquirtle)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/3 "2025-11-21T14:46:39Z")
Depends on how old the Pokemon illustrator cert is, akabane has made me mistrust anything new but in general I’d choose neither, I’d choose a house ---
**Author:** ![Frosty.Puppy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frosty.puppy/32/234614_2.png) [@Frosty.Puppy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Frosty.Puppy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/4 "2025-11-21T15:04:37Z")
Absolute rarity \> Conditional rarity ---
**Author:** ![trophycollector24](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trophycollector24/32/107319_2.png) [@trophycollector24](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/trophycollector24)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/5 "2025-11-21T15:07:47Z")
Totally agree!! ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/6 "2025-11-21T15:11:36Z")
I’ll take a PSA 6 of both ---
**Author:** ![Vertemes](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/vertemes/32/285055_2.png) [@Vertemes](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Vertemes)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/7 "2025-11-21T15:12:03Z")
Pikachu Illustrator every day of the week. Better Art, Better history, looks cool ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/will/32/223509_2.png) [@Will](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/8 "2025-11-21T15:12:52Z")
While generally absolute rarity\>conditional rarity, I think I’d go choziro if I had to choose. Something about the Illustrator doesn’t do it for me. Maybe an automatic LP association? ---
**Author:** ![decoypalmette](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/decoypalmette/32/254336_2.png) [@decoypalmette](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/decoypalmette)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/9 "2025-11-21T15:18:01Z")
I’d take the illustrator ---
**Author:** ![pikachutcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pikachutcg/32/253974_2.png) [@pikachutcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pikachutcg)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/10 "2025-11-21T15:26:41Z")
I’d go for the Illustrator over the zard, i’d even go for lower than a PSA 6 :pikawink: In my opinion, it doesn’t even come close, and I **really** do love Base Set. ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/11 "2025-11-21T15:36:03Z")
Would you rather: _Poll ([view on site](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/11))_ ---
**Author:** ![wisewailmer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/wisewailmer/32/179572_2.png) [@wisewailmer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/wisewailmer)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/12 "2025-11-21T15:37:14Z")
as someone who dislikes conditional rarity and PSA a fair bit, charizord no question ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/13 "2025-11-21T15:38:02Z")
Me I would get the illustrator and then go buy a random Japanese zard with the licorice money my mom gave me ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/14 "2025-11-21T15:39:03Z")
I feel like Akabane has tainted the Illustrator so much for me, that I’d have to go with the 10 Zord. Has to be a thicc stamp though ---
**Author:** ![rtas](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rtas/32/257427_2.png) [@rtas](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/rtas)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/15 "2025-11-21T15:42:47Z")
the japanese base set no rarity are the tru 1st edition therefore, illustrator 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![c0ll3ct0r](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/c0ll3ct0r/32/26306_2.png) [@c0ll3ct0r](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/c0ll3ct0r)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/16 "2025-11-21T15:44:16Z")
I’d take a BGS 7.5 shadowless ruby over a garden variety PSA 10 1st ed all day, but I’d take both over any Illustrator. Unless I get the money, then I want the Loganstrator. ---
**Author:** ![MidEraCollector](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mideracollector/32/197135_2.png) [@MidEraCollector](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/MidEraCollector)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/17 "2025-11-21T16:07:17Z")
while the illustrator is overall more rare, ill take the charizard. It’s the zard that carried so many memories, the thrill of chasing it as children, that brought back so many to the hobby in the first place. When we speak on the earliest days of vintage it really is all about the fire lizard In fact, take a look at what pikachu is illustrating… a Charmander. Because the OG base charizard was released all the back in 1996 (japanese) and Pokemon owes a lot of it’s breakout success to charizard that even the illustrator is essentially highlighting it ---
**Author:** ![thsigma](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/thsigma/32/2419_2.png) [@thsigma](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/thsigma)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/18 "2025-11-21T16:36:07Z")
Illustrator but only if Akabane kissed it ---
**Author:** ![camrok37](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/camrok37/32/237956_2.png) [@camrok37](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/camrok37)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/19 "2025-11-21T17:01:31Z")
Illustrator every time. I understand the appeal of a PSA 10 1st Edition Charizard, but for what it is I would just end up liquidating it to fund something like an illustrator anyway. ---
**Author:** ![bule](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/bule/32/79436_2.png) [@bule](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/bule)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401/20 "2025-11-21T17:02:08Z")
I’ll take the Charizard 1st Shadowless 10. Around 1999 -2000, it was the king of the playground card in my school and I’m sure it does too in many other people’s. The art is also very iconic. For me the circumstances that makes Illustrator Pikachu the ‘holy grail’ of the hobby feels so coincidental and random. The card is obscure enough due to the way it is distributed, but somehow gained notoriety along the way. Looking at the Best of the Best winners of the first contest (1997 Pokémon Card Game Illust Artist Contest: Poliwrath, Snorlax, Mr. Mime), I also somehow got the feeling that the competition level of the contest was not of the highest. It almost feels hard to actually convince a new collector why this particular card is the numero uno most special card in Pokemon hobby, if showing price tag/sales history/paid receipt are not allowed. [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/what-would-you-rather-have-psa-10-1st-edition-shadowless-charizard-vs-illustrator-pikachu-psa-7/59401.md?page=2)