Agreed. It’s almost strange that CGC haven’t treated this as a more urgent issue, but maybe that is a reflection of how meager the projected margins are. Or, they are just being thorough, who knows.
On the comic side they “confirmed” they were going to begin grading pulps like 9 months ago and we don’t yet have any time frame or any look at the holders etc. I think they just don’t have enough employees for the influx they are going to get from all these new categories lol
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If CGC has some of their own execs and board members grading / buying their own games through an auction house they have ties to then I’m really bullish on their pricing.
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kpod
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Doesn’t CGC card grading also have a pop report problem i.e. there isn’t one
Yes lol Really disappointing. They promised pop report, Yu-Gi-Oh grading, and pack grading for 2021 and none ever came. I definitely don’t think they foresaw the 500k-1m cards they would get so quickly.
raffieh
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What if it was a fake pokemon card that was graded and label as such? PSA, for example authenticates cards, so I would not be okay with a company that authenticates cards, to grading a fake/fan made card. Same principle with games, even if it is labeled
graded games don’t appeal to me either, but there is for sure a market for them
zorloth
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As @pokecollectoramy said, a rep promised one for 2021. The rep then subsequently backtracked and said that it will probably be early 2022 before one is live. Honestly, it’s just pathetic at this point. It doesn’t even have to be a fully-fledged census – it could literally just be an excel spreadsheet with the raw data. There’s no excuse for not at least releasing that.
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agreed. We all know at this point a pop report would negatively impact them. Whether that being the sheer number of cards that are graded or perhaps even a grade distribution that favors the high side. The lack of transparency is concerning to say the least
zorloth
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I disagree with that. I think that a pop report would positively impact them. There are many collectors who won’t touch CGC because of the lack of pop reports. I don’t think there’s a sinister motive behind their not having released pop reports – I think it’s more likely to just be a combination of incompetence and not being aware of how much demand there is for one.
It could be incompetence, it’s CGC so that’s always a possibility. I just don’t see why they wouldn’t since they’re supposed to be on the cutting edge. While I do think transparency would be good for them if they want to be top dogs in the long run, I think they have a handful of reasons they’re not doing it.
davie
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I haven’t looked too heavily into multi-level marketing – what’s the general consensus in the E4 community on the game?
enigma
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Don’t ask.
You can easily look it up using the ‘Search’ bar and find the info for yourself 
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Two hints: the word just recently became typeable again and a few more posts about it in this thread will get it locked.
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davie
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Do you want to PM me your thoughts LOL
I’m honestly curious and haven’t been on any threads with conversations around it. I’m guessing it’s controversial, with Gary being a solid backer, and perhaps the other side… who don’t quite love it as much?
Just wanted to chime in on the “No Pop Report is Inexcusable” opinion held about a few different companies.
It’s really easy for people to have strong opinions about coding challenges that seem easy and necessary. I see it with a lot of things from this hobby to “I can’t believe X game producer hasn’t fixed Y bug yet” and so on. I just wanted to appeal to the firsthand knowledge that it can be a lot harder than it seems.
First, within any company, you’re dealing with a fixed engineering team that is always working at 100% capacity. That means that everything that comes up gets sorted into a priority queue. And they’re working to make progress on and balance existing products, new products, and a constant flow of information. No corporate engineering team is going to work on a FIFO basis, and no corporation is going to be able to maintain a perfectly elastic supply of engineering resources. You can’t hire someone to do one task with your complex inner software and then let them go right after.
Second, the amount of time things take is dramatically longer in the corporate world. You’re looking at something as a hobbyist who feels every day and saying “Oh my gosh, I cannot believe it has been a YEAR and this hasn’t been done yet!” They’re looking at it and saying, “We are an incredibly young company tackling the challenges of dramatic industry shifts over a pandemic that is going on 2 years and this low priority just entered our queue 2 quarters ago.”
Third, a POP report is, whether we like it or not, unecessary. For a company that is accepting items and telling the submitter if they are real and what condition they are in, how many other people also submitted is just a fun fact. It’s not a critical piece of infrastructure that will simply tank the service if it is not accomplished tomorrow. We are used to having them because we have an ultra-limited scope of only ever having dealt with a small number of companies in the space who happen to have them. But it’s not critical infrastructure. So you know it is entering that engineering queue relatively low.
Fourth, it is a massive stretch to say that because a company has not been able to produce a satisfying population report in the timeframe that you want, they are acting maliciously and actively seeking to withhold information. The obsession with ascribing malevolence is solely out of a personal cynicism and conspiratorial bent within the hobby where people have too much time and anthropomorphize business entities.
All this to say: I love POP reports. I want POP reports for all of my collectibles. They’re great. But young companies not having one is pretty logical. We can’t expect them to throw up something shitty and half-efforted because it may scratch our itch, but it actually looks bad on the whole to casual consumers. And it doesn’t make sense for their engineering teams to get in the habit of doing 80% of different tasks but just not polishing them. We will get them eventually. The wait may be agonizing. But we also have to have a LITTLE perspective here. lol
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kinggr
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Hasn’t PSA been encapsulating custom cards since 2010?
www.psacard.com/articles/articleview/6132/psa-announces-custom-card-encapsulation-service
I thought I’ve seen this service used for Pokemon cards they deem not legit too, such as FPO e-Series cards. So in theory, wouldn’t they encapsulate any custom card like Wata with games?
