The Ultimate Master Set?

might as well include the holo misprints, too lol

I wouldn’t but you can!

I think the ultimate master set would be unlimited Base Set…

…with its prerelease card…

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Plus every card bgs10 pristine black label

No you smelly americans…

The no rarity is the most difficult to grade as a master set in psa 10. ANd it will be the ultimate maybe the true 1 of a kind. Unless i complete a second one :nerd_face:

ENglish is mass produced. There is plenty of sources for many cards out there. For NOW You can buy booster packs, booster boxes and there is singles being listed mint all day everyday on ebay. JUmp on ebay right now and check sold listings for mint ungraded no rarities, and then search for legendary collection ungraded holos. :nerd_face: If you compare the importation documentations of wizard of the coast cards to the no rarity you will be quite shocked… Lets put this into perspective for a second. THERE was 1 VAN, A single small mom and pop business who delivered every single no raritan Package in the beginning vs 20 billion planes full of wotc product delivered all over the world to extract dollans from every parent on the face of this smelly mudball we call earth.

yes there bad quality and very difficult to 10, but ENGLISH HAS THE QUANTITY! For now anyway.
But in the end you cant really compare the english sets to the no rarity, as the english sets are highly collectable since theres so many and the main audience and majority of people want english.
Its kinda of like saying… The masses are all able to collect trophy cards, because theres so many copies out there for everyone. Everyone back in the day use to just collect trophy cards like the 1997 pikas… everyone had those. 5 copies of each card for the entire america.

Same princibale really… There is like 10 mint copies max that have appeared since 2013 of the charizard. Im sorry but that aint gonna cut it for the massive audience of serious pokemon collectors. Thats where the english comes in.

The hardest Set cards to grade are the no rarity by far. There is no denying. Dont believe me? It boils down to experience, and if you havent experienced the wrath of the no raritan, then go home. Shut up korean unlimited doesnt count because the jury is still out on that one.

The thing is though Ide put the english sets after the no rarity and Ide say even though the EX series is hard to come by in japanese… The english will still beat it. You have about 2 seconds on ebay to grab the mint english stuff ungraded making the competition much more real for that era. Given the gold stars are going for like 4k plus in psa 10 now… There is little to no window when it comes to these cards in english. You have got very little time to get the mint japanese EX series ones to but there is that quality of the NEW back japanese cards which grade extremely well and pretty much everything on yahoo japan is listed as BIDding auctions in comparison were is with the ex series ENGLISH on ebay that You See is mostly all BUYOUT and given everyone and there motherb wants english wotc/ex series… You Dont have much of a chance. As smpratticoinz says it isnt replicable. or one of those grammical genious peoples words he use.

The thing is… Grading your own ungraded cards that you obtain is much more rewarding and its a much greater achievement then buying them out in 10. Ide argue that grading the entire english wotc era in psa 10 from ungraded cards might be a bigger achievement then the no rarirty psa 10 set. There is only one man who has done this so far and he is a freak of nature @gemmintpokemon
But grading a pristine bgs 10 no rarity master set would beat that achievement imo. I will be destroying him though and taking the path of grading every single wotc holo in psa 10 myself. So prepare for war. Eventually ill grade all wotc holos in pristinge bgs 10 also. I will be collecting for hundreds, if not thousands of years. I am currently looking into life extensive technologenz.

The thing is… Over time Things = entropies. So if the no rarities are scarse now, and the competition is real with the engrish now… What will they look like in the future. Grading the ultimate set card master set gets harder every single day So you better get on it now before its to late. One thing is for certain, there will always be quantity for the english, but getting someone to let go of those precious psa 10 jewels is getting very difficult as people realise there value. IT still amazes me that a shadowless blastoise sells for 250 at this point… There is a hole there and it aint going to last. WHY peep sell there shadowless mint 9s cheap as hell at this point :relieved: My sestra is going to sell some of hers once grade because she is a dick, but if i could murder her and take them i would. I guess people need money so we cant blame them… But still. Selling such rare precious jewels like shadowless because there mint 9 doesnt make sense to me and i dont agree with you.

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if you consider grading an aspect, then a set with a variant thats near impossible to grade a 10, like SC Deoxys or the infamous PreRelease Clefable, that takes the cake. Jungle is already a hard set to grade all 10s, considering its an early WOTC. Add on the Clefable and the no stamp variants, Jungle is a real doozy

@pokemonsyndicate’s last words will be, “no raritan, no raritan, no raritan”. :wink:

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I would say for grading you only do the holo and up cards in PSA 10. That would be a great master set.

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Ahhh and here he is the other freak of nature who spent 6 years maticulously grading the entire ex series in f*** Engrish 10 and then once he finish like most smelly Americano don’t know how to feel once reached goal so they throw it all away and buy car or house or marry someone which gives them responsibilinz that they believe are more important then there hard earn efforts.

Your car is shit :sunglasses::sweat_drops::sweat_drops: the cards were better. Worth three times the price now to. Imagine you could have just sold the 3 gold stars. Got the car and kept all the ex’s. The salt must be real… alright maybe that wouldn’t I have made much of difference and is over exaggerating or maybe it’s to tough a pill to swallow and I wanted to take back the mean truth I spoke and give you the blue pill.Look highbroker I love you but i also hate you now and hopefully that hate will bring you back to the hobby one day.
If only I had dollans at the time… enough to buy it all. But noooooo the world had to treat me unfairly.

Legendary collection also has the 4 box toppers, and 3 theme deck non holos. Which are also hard to grade.

yeah, it’s definitely up there as one of the hardest. Base, Jungle, LC, Skyridge, EX Deoxys, and Dark Explorers are my top sets to complete master sets in.

Ide say jungle is one of the most difficult and challengin/hardest for sure. But it still isnt in the legue of the no rarity when it comes to grading the set.

There doesnt exist psa 10s of no rarity also. but it is only a matter of time. Same goes for those infamous english cards like that pre release clefable. Remember the seadra wasnt psa 10 for ages haha. then there was 4 over night.
This doesnt happen with no rarity. Sudden pop changes drastically over night are not a thing with this set… Maybe it wont be a thing with the pre release clefable… But

If you take the prerelease clefable out of the picture, jungle is easy compared to no rarity to grade in 10 as there is so many copies out there mint. You can just buy the psa 10s straight out when ever you feel on ebay. However there is no fun in that. When it comes to jungle you can still go and buy twenty trillion boxes off ebay if need be. With no rarity its like hmmm how do i get the sealdz? To buy 400,000 decks and hope i get 1 deck that has no raritan… So much worth… WELL SHUT UP, because it is to me :nerd_face:
Sounds easy to complete wotc right? YOU can just buy them all out… SO lets just leave them till last like i did and then one day you wake up and charizard sells for 20k… SHould be easy. so easy.

Back to my comparison in taking out the rare card in jungle vs taking out shut up. If you take the hardest psa 10 no rarity holo or 2 out of the picture, then it will still be impossible to complete the set in 10. It wont really effect it, as you cant just go on ebay and purchase the whole set in 10 like you can with WOTC sets. Because purchasing wotc cards in 10 is easy of course.

The thing is though peeps…> This is going to all change in the future, and only get worse.

What will completing the jungle set look like in the future when all of them are in seriously serious peoples collections, and all boosters are dried up and there hasnt been a copy of pre release clefable for 20 moons. Will the no rarities still be leaking slowly because collectors in japan decided to keep them all whilst all the jungle was drying up all this time?

Either way… there will be much less graded no raritan regardless, but that doesnt mean jungle wont be near impossible to complete. In time prices are going to effect how hard it is to get stuff and wotc is destroying all life forms. So if your trying to get the best investment, then jungle could end up murdering no rarity in the future… You never know.

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Good points, but the difficulty of certain cards of the set eclipses any singles in the no rarity set. Yes, theyre very obscure, but i could easily see numerous mint copies of the more niche singles popping up once it becomes less obscure. But hey, no rarity is definitely a big boy, syndie

Why do you americans use words like obscure.

My australian brain can not decipherb.

Even though i dont understand… but my spider senses are starting to think i understand.

im going to have to say I agree.

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Also wanted to throw in Dragon Exalted. The FAs are notoriously tough to grade, along with the fact that the Pokemon Game Show Rayquaza uses the same artwork, and is technically a variant. Similarly, the two Super Rare Get Lottery prizes are also part of the set, in a way. While the set being graded isn’t the most insane set, its still an incredibly tough master set, being that those Lottery promos are limited to 1000 each and the Game Show Rayquaza is limited to an astounding 8. Part of me wishes I wouldve picked it up, and I wouldve had all the big pieces to this set haha

damn, thats a good one.

1st ed base set shadowless (ENG) all in BGS 10s (or 10BLs…? mwaha)
No rarity BGS 10s set.
Skyridge BGS 10s set.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

base set master set? surely all them languages

Really don’t want to agree with DJ, but he might be right. While Evolutions is inexpensive and easy to grade now, and most of the DCE variants aren’t really difficult to get, just getting 4 regions of the Championship DCEs is just stupid and ludicrous. Possible, but the price and opportunity to do so is too variable. Damnit DJ, I thought I had this one in the bag lol

I also have a question. Bulbapedia states there’s only two versions of the DCE Championship variant: London and Australia. I assume there’s an American one, and ive heard speculation of the Latin one being distributed by the judges, but what makes up the 4 you spoke of?