# The PWCC Megathread

**URL:** <https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** pwcc, mega-thread\
**Created:** [November 30, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812 "2017-11-30T05:23:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 37

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**Author:** ![charizandrew](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizandrew/32/873_2.png) [@charizandrew](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizandrew)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/723 "2018-10-31T02:27:36Z")

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$2350 for PSA 10 1st edition Shining Charizard stood out to me. It seems higher than other recent sales.

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**Author:** ![jakew1992](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jakew1992/32/762_2.png) [@jakew1992](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jakew1992)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/724 "2018-10-31T03:19:35Z")

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> [@pierce](#):
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> > [@joakimstore](#):
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> > Next month’s auctions are up, lots of exciting cards!
> > 
> > - A good amount of 1st ed base holos PSA 10, including 2x Blastoise and 2x Venusaur
> > - Loads of 1st ed base non holos
> > - Shadowless Charizard PSA 10
> > - Shadowless Charizard BGS 9.5
> > - 1st ed base Charizard PSA 9
> > - 1st edition shining Charizard PSA 10
> > - Crystal Charizard PSA 10
> > - Some PSA 9 and lower shinings and Gold Stars
> 
> I like it when they post up the new stuff so early 😊
> 
> It’ll be interesting to see where the [BGS Quad 1st Ed Base Charizard](http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575425212&toolid=10001&campid=5338373603&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2F1999-Pokemon-Game-1st-Edition-Holo-Charizard-THICK-STAMP-4-BGS-9-5-GEM-PWCC%2F352491870081) finishes … I wonder if whoever buys it will try for a PSA 10 crossover or if they just prefer BGS.
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> Edit: I just noticed the label actually says ‘Thick Stamp’ on it, kinda funny they designate it like that IMO.

$16kusd

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/725 "2018-10-31T13:40:59Z")

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Call me naive, but with BGS 9.5 cards going for significantly less than PSA 10 (in the area of 1/3), yet likely being the same card quality and grade why are more people not buying them up, cracking the case, then submitting to PSA, and selling for a profit? Almost every BGS 9.5 looks like a PSA 10 to me, and the subgrades help verify that too.

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**Author:** ![gottaketchumall](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gottaketchumall/32/161622_2.png) [@gottaketchumall](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gottaketchumall)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/726 "2018-10-31T13:58:32Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> Call me naive, but with BGS 9.5 cards going for significantly less than PSA 10 (in the area of 1/3), yet likely being the same card quality and grade why are more people not buying them up, cracking the case, then submitting to PSA, and selling for a profit? Almost every BGS 9.5 looks like a PSA 10 to me, and the subgrades help verify that too.

PSA 10\> BGS 9.5

Sure some will cross to PSA 10, but not nearly all of them. You can be sure that many BGS 9.5’s have been crossed from PSA 9’s and I am the culprit for some of those. I have indeed also crossed a few BGS 9.5’s to PSA 10, but you also stand to lose out quite bad if you fall to PSA 9.

ETA: You were indeed being naive.

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**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/727 "2018-10-31T16:04:26Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> Call me naive, but with BGS 9.5 cards going for significantly less than PSA 10 (in the area of 1/3), yet likely being the same card quality and grade why are more people not buying them up, cracking the case, then submitting to PSA, and selling for a profit? Almost every BGS 9.5 looks like a PSA 10 to me, and the subgrades help verify that too.

I have yet to cross a bgs 9.5 Pokémon card to PSA 10. While certain bgs 9.5 copies have more potential, overall most wont cross to PSA 10.

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/728 "2018-10-31T16:21:06Z")

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> [@smpratte](#):
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> > [@kpod](#):
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> > Call me naive, but with BGS 9.5 cards going for significantly less than PSA 10 (in the area of 1/3), yet likely being the same card quality and grade why are more people not buying them up, cracking the case, then submitting to PSA, and selling for a profit? Almost every BGS 9.5 looks like a PSA 10 to me, and the subgrades help verify that too.
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> I have yet to cross a bgs 9.5 Pokémon card to PSA 10. While certain bgs 9.5 copies have more potential, overall most wont cross to PSA 10.

The Poke god has spoken!

In all seriousness, thanks to the above 2 posters for their insights. I’d always heard that BGS grades harder than PSA, so it seemed likely in my mind that a BGS 9.5 would score a PSA 10, and thus help boost the cards value since many buyers prefer a PSA grade over BGS. The thick stamp BGS 9.5 1st Charizard sold last night for “a mere $17k”, whereas I’m sure that card if graded PSA 10 would be a $30k card.

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**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/729 "2018-10-31T16:49:50Z")

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i know smpratte is rly smart btw  
but noone is a god

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**Author:** ![EnlightenedBulbasaur](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/enlightenedbulbasaur/32/536_2.png) [@EnlightenedBulbasaur](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/EnlightenedBulbasaur)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/730 "2018-10-31T17:07:27Z")

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> [@joakimstore](#):
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> Next month’s auctions are up, lots of exciting cards!
> 
> - A good amount of 1st ed base holos PSA 10, including 2x Blastoise and 2x Venusaur
> - Loads of 1st ed base non holos
> - Shadowless Charizard PSA 10
> - Shadowless Charizard BGS 9.5
> - 1st ed base Charizard PSA 9
> - 1st edition shining Charizard PSA 10
> - Crystal Charizard PSA 10
> - Some PSA 9 and lower shinings and Gold Stars

Could you provide a link for this?SaveSave

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**Author:** ![joakimstore](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joakimstore/32/568_2.png) [@joakimstore](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joakimstore)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/731 "2018-10-31T19:26:18Z")

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> [@EnlightenedBulbasaur](#):
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> > [@joakimstore](#):
> >
> > Next month’s auctions are up, lots of exciting cards!
> > 
> > - A good amount of 1st ed base holos PSA 10, including 2x Blastoise and 2x Venusaur
> > - Loads of 1st ed base non holos
> > - Shadowless Charizard PSA 10
> > - Shadowless Charizard BGS 9.5
> > - 1st ed base Charizard PSA 9
> > - 1st edition shining Charizard PSA 10
> > - Crystal Charizard PSA 10
> > - Some PSA 9 and lower shinings and Gold Stars
> 
> Could you provide a link for this?SaveSave

[www.pwccmarketplace.com/current-auction?completed\_items=&auction\_id=134&q=&view=list&sort\_by=time&category=121&date=0&page=1&items\_per\_page=50](https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/current-auction?completed_items=&auction_id=134&q=&view=list&sort_by=time&category=121&date=0&page=1&items_per_page=50)

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**Author:** ![benoit489](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/benoit489/32/847_2.png) [@benoit489](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/benoit489)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/732 "2018-11-02T02:36:40Z")

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Anybody score anything cool? I missed out on almost everything I went for but ended up getting the Mega Blastoise from Evolutions that went in that small bonus round last night.

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**Author:** ![darkchansey](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/darkchansey/32/993_2.png) [@darkchansey](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/darkchansey)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/733 "2018-11-04T08:29:24Z")

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> [@benoit489](#):
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> Anybody score anything cool? I missed out on almost everything I went for but ended up getting the Mega Blastoise from Evolutions that went in that small bonus round last night.

No it was a sad one for me, I know I should try to not sleep, I missed this dragonite again (expedition).  
I should bid on the dark raichu too! I only had a Japanese venusaur from last PWCC sale.  
Fortunately, I managed to find in another auction a PSA9 1st edition French raichu for only 41$.

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**Author:** ![mistercrunch](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mistercrunch/32/594_2.png) [@mistercrunch](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mistercrunch)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/734 "2018-11-10T15:53:17Z")

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A couple of interesting cards in the next PWCC block including a shadowless psa 10 charizard. I noticed they added a video for it which I had never seen before. Is it a new thing they do for higher end cards? Here is a link:  
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El)\_Dt4NRY

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/735 "2018-11-10T15:58:47Z")

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> [@mistercrunch](#):
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> A couple of interesting cards in the next PWCC block including a shadowless psa 10 charizard. I noticed they added a video for it which I had never seen before. Is it a new thing they do for higher end cards? Here is a link:  
> [www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El)\_Dt4NRY

The card owner probably slipped them a couple extra Benjamin’s to make the video

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**Author:** ![chappo](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/chappo/32/962_2.png) [@chappo](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/chappo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/736 "2018-11-10T16:24:43Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> > [@mistercrunch](#):
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> > A couple of interesting cards in the next PWCC block including a shadowless psa 10 charizard. I noticed they added a video for it which I had never seen before. Is it a new thing they do for higher end cards? Here is a link:  
> > [www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3El)\_Dt4NRY
> 
> The card owner probably slipped them a couple extra Benjamin’s to make the video

they get a nice cut from every sale, so advertising the highlight cards a little more is only benefitial to them 😊

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**Author:** ![pierce](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pierce/32/767_2.png) [@pierce](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pierce)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/737 "2018-11-11T11:00:52Z")

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They’ve started adding videos to the higher profile cards across all hobbies, not a bad idea tbh

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**Author:** ![shizzlemetimbers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/shizzlemetimbers/32/453_2.png) [@shizzlemetimbers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/shizzlemetimbers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/738 "2018-11-11T13:36:43Z")

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Well for around $1600 in sales commission I would hope to get more than just a couple of scans to sell an item

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**Author:** ![crow](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/crow/32/1010_2.png) [@crow](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/crow)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/739 "2018-11-12T23:01:48Z")

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Does the top left corner of the 1st edition base PSA 9 Charizard look strange to anybody else? It looks kind of odd to me because not only is it much shorter than the other corners but it looks really uneven, like somebody took a pair of scissors to it. Maybe that’s normal though; I don’t know.

Edited for link: [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-1st-Edition-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/143008780499?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&\_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-1st-Edition-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/143008780499?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/740 "2018-11-12T23:14:42Z")

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> [@shizzlemetimbers](#):
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> Well for around $1600 in sales commission I would hope to get more than just a couple of scans to sell an item

$1600 commission on what kind of final sale price?

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**Author:** ![melchior](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/melchior/32/1091_2.png) [@melchior](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/melchior)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/741 "2018-11-12T23:15:30Z")

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> [@crow](#):
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> Does the top left corner of the 1st edition base PSA 9 Charizard look strange to anybody else? It looks kind of odd to me because not only is it much shorter than the other corners but it looks really uneven, like somebody took a pair of scissors to it. Maybe that’s normal though; I don’t know.
> 
> Edited for link: [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-1st-Edition-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/143008780499?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&\_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-1st-Edition-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/143008780499?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)

It’s definitely missing a bit of cardboard on that top left corner. The yellow border should extend beyond the inner red frame of the card in a perfectly parallel line which it doesn’t do here. Edit: I don’t imply tampering, but you can easily find Zards with crisper corners.

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**Author:** ![shizzlemetimbers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/shizzlemetimbers/32/453_2.png) [@shizzlemetimbers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/shizzlemetimbers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/742 "2018-11-12T23:54:37Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> > [@shizzlemetimbers](#):
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> > Well for around $1600 in sales commission I would hope to get more than just a couple of scans to sell an item
> 
> $1600 commission on what kind of final sale price?

20k

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