# The PWCC Megathread **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** pwcc, mega-thread\ **Created:** [November 30, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812 "2017-11-30T05:23:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![silentoaths](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/silentoaths/32/186118_2.png) [@silentoaths](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/silentoaths)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/603 "2018-07-29T23:48:35Z")
> [@pokenoob](#): > > What do you guys bet will end higher… PSA 10 Unlimited Charizard or PSA 9 Shadowless? Both are tied in a dead heat at $1,225 right now: > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/401569890120?hash=item5d7f6e3f48:g:N9EAAOSwPRxbUN9b](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/401569890120?hash=item5d7f6e3f48:g:N9EAAOSwPRxbUN9b) > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Shadowless-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/352409585915?hash=item520d3f88fb:g:-9YAAOSwLcZbUOAC](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Shadowless-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/352409585915?hash=item520d3f88fb:g:-9YAAOSwLcZbUOAC) I’m going to say they will end at the same price. =). The current bid is already at what they usually go for on both of them so it might push people away from bidding further. Both are about the same right now in market value so they will for certain end close, that I’m sure of. ---
**Author:** ![silentoaths](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/silentoaths/32/186118_2.png) [@silentoaths](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/silentoaths)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/604 "2018-07-30T02:06:08Z")
> [@pokenoob](#): > > What do you guys bet will end higher… PSA 10 Unlimited Charizard or PSA 9 Shadowless? Both are tied in a dead heat at $1,225 right now: > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/401569890120?hash=item5d7f6e3f48:g:N9EAAOSwPRxbUN9b](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-10-GEM-MINT-PWCC/401569890120?hash=item5d7f6e3f48:g:N9EAAOSwPRxbUN9b) > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Shadowless-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/352409585915?hash=item520d3f88fb:g:-9YAAOSwLcZbUOAC](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Game-Shadowless-Holo-Charizard-4-PSA-9-MINT-PWCC/352409585915?hash=item520d3f88fb:g:-9YAAOSwLcZbUOAC) It almost ended at the same price, the second to the last bidder snipe bid way to early. Still around the same price range. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![charizandrew](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizandrew/32/873_2.png) [@charizandrew](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizandrew)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/605 "2018-07-30T03:09:09Z")
> [@admiral](#): > > The Mewtwo is over 2k now for what I would consider a PSA 9. Wowsers Yeah that’s very surprising to me as well. Maybe just don’t ever look at the back lol. ---
**Author:** ![charizandrew](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizandrew/32/873_2.png) [@charizandrew](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizandrew)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/606 "2018-07-30T03:10:34Z")
The PSA 10 shadowless Chansey ended at $2175. Did anyone expect it to go higher? ---
**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/607 "2018-07-30T03:33:55Z")
> [@charizandrew](#): > > The PSA 10 shadowless Chansey ended at $2175. Did anyone expect it to go higher? I did. I thought about $3k or so, but I’m not really surprised. At least Blastoise earned close to that. ---
**Author:** ![silentoaths](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/silentoaths/32/186118_2.png) [@silentoaths](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/silentoaths)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/608 "2018-07-30T03:50:37Z")
PWCC had a Coro Coro Mew PSA 10 going on auction. Pretty sure the thing was shill bid to hell and back. Been looking for one but not looking to buy from someone who is a possible shill bid. [LINK](https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/401569899495?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137) ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/609 "2018-07-30T05:14:05Z")
Auctions did pretty well overall, honestly better than I expected! ---
**Author:** ![joer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joer/32/131558_2.png) [@joer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/610 "2018-07-30T06:33:28Z")
> [@smpratte](#): > > Auctions did pretty well overall, honestly better than I expected! Steal of the night was the Masaki set. I think you would agree that was a very good price for all 5 cards at once. I lost track of time and found myself angrily staring at it. The PSA 9 unlimited zards and all those shadowless gyarados didn’t underperform like many thought. They may have been fair price, but it’s not like they were bargains. ---
**Author:** ![pokenoob](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokenoob/32/842_2.png) [@pokenoob](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokenoob)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/611 "2018-07-30T13:13:49Z")
> [@smpratte](#): > > Auctions did pretty well overall, honestly better than I expected! I agree. There weren’t any steals on popular cards last night that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![crow](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/crow/32/1010_2.png) [@crow](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/crow)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/612 "2018-07-30T14:15:02Z")
I thought $305 for 1st edition base Zapdos and $360 for Raichu were pretty low prices, but I thought 1st edition base holos generally did alright. ---
**Author:** ![Troy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/troy/32/643_2.png) [@Troy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Troy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/613 "2018-07-30T14:21:48Z")
> [@crow](#): > > I thought $305 for 1st edition base Zapdos and $360 for Raichu were pretty low prices, but I thought 1st edition base holos generally did alright. Right? A few days ago I put $300 on Zapdos not fully expecting to win it, I was frankly kind of scared that I almost did. I would have been happy for getting it for such a steal, but… ---
**Author:** ![deaddarkrai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/deaddarkrai/32/880_2.png) [@deaddarkrai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/deaddarkrai)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/614 "2018-07-30T16:00:49Z")
> [@cman](#): > > > [@joseph88](#): > > > > Highest priced Pokemon card from the pwcc auction is shilled to death, Rayquaza gold star. > > > > [www.ebay.com/itm/401569903949?nordt=true](https://www.ebay.com/itm/401569903949?nordt=true) > > > > How do you think pwcc will sort this one out in terms of the winning buyer and how much they should pay for it? I thought they would be on top of things like this. Puts off any potential real buyer for sure. > > > > P.S. AUCTIONS END TONIGHT BY THE WAY. Any cards that you’re looking forward to hopefully win? > > This was a re-list of a previous PWCC auction (exact same cert #). Last round, 2 rays were up for bidding; one of them sold and was paid for, while the other one (this one) was relisted. > > PWCC will sort it out as they always do - ban the nonpayer from future auctions and re-list the card until it is purchased. Had a PSA 10 GS Umbreon i was selling with them and it got shilled 4 auctions in a row. Someone really did not want it to sell low. Had to contact brent to have him return the card. ---
**Author:** ![Mike](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mike/32/125779_2.png) [@Mike](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Mike)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/615 "2018-07-30T16:18:12Z")
> [@deaddarkrai](#): > > Had a PSA 10 GS Umbreon i was selling with them and it got shilled 4 auctions in a row. Someone really did not want it to sell low. Had to contact brent to have him return the card. This is the part I don’t get, why are people so bent on bidding up a card they don’t intend to buy? What’s in it for them? They’ll end up getting banned by PWCC and the people who genuinely were ready to buy the card miss out. ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/616 "2018-07-30T16:23:04Z")
> [@Mike](#): > > > [@deaddarkrai](#): > > > > Had a PSA 10 GS Umbreon i was selling with them and it got shilled 4 auctions in a row. Someone really did not want it to sell low. Had to contact brent to have him return the card. > > This is the part I don’t get, why are people so bent on bidding up a card they don’t intend to buy? What’s in it for them? They’ll end up getting banned by PWCC and the people who genuinely were ready to buy the card miss out. A good chunk of the english gold star cards are driven by social media. They are essentially protecting their purchase price. There is nothing wrong with this **IF** they actually pay, as that is simply buying a card. However them not paying is shilling. No other category right now in the hobby has more shills than english gold stars. ---
**Author:** ![cman](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cman/32/262_2.png) [@cman](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cman)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/617 "2018-07-30T16:42:47Z")
> [@deaddarkrai](#): > > > [@cman](#): > > > > This was a re-list of a previous PWCC auction (exact same cert #). Last round, 2 rays were up for bidding; one of them sold and was paid for, while the other one (this one) was relisted. > > > > PWCC will sort it out as they always do - ban the nonpayer from future auctions and re-list the card until it is purchased. > > Had a PSA 10 GS Umbreon i was selling with them and it got shilled 4 auctions in a row. Someone really did not want it to sell low. Had to contact brent to have him return the card. Ouch, that really sucks 😕 I hate when people shill auctions and cause more headaches than needed. ---
**Author:** ![silentoaths](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/silentoaths/32/186118_2.png) [@silentoaths](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/silentoaths)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/618 "2018-07-30T18:47:27Z")
> [@Mike](#): > > > [@deaddarkrai](#): > > > > Had a PSA 10 GS Umbreon i was selling with them and it got shilled 4 auctions in a row. Someone really did not want it to sell low. Had to contact brent to have him return the card. > > This is the part I don’t get, why are people so bent on bidding up a card they don’t intend to buy? What’s in it for them? They’ll end up getting banned by PWCC and the people who genuinely were ready to buy the card miss out. The reason can be two reasons. One: that’s the owners card and since it’s a public auction, anyone can bid (even themselves). It’s easy enough to just make an alternate account and drive the sale up. Whether that account gets banned or not it doesn’t matter to them when they profit at the price they want. Two: it’s some butt head who has nothing better to do than to mess and tamper up sales. This tends to happen on bigger public auctions that everyone finds out about and since it’s PWCC it’s easy to find out and cast a random bid with no intention of paying either to just be a butt head or to make the value of that card seem like it’s worth more so they can sell their own at the higher ending price after the auction. ---
**Author:** ![darkchansey](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/darkchansey/32/993_2.png) [@darkchansey](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/darkchansey)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/619 "2018-07-30T22:14:05Z")
I won some auctions while I was sleeping (French collector here xD). But I am pretty sure that there were people who bid just enough to reach my max bid. How can they know my max bid ? It’s frustrating because I would probably made better deals. ---
**Author:** ![fritz](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fritz/32/481_2.png) [@fritz](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fritz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/620 "2018-07-30T22:22:30Z")
> [@smpratte](#): > > Auctions did pretty well overall, honestly better than I expected! I was expecting to make a quick $200 and ended up making $500+. It was a great auction! ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/621 "2018-07-31T04:29:05Z")
> [@darkchansey](#): > > I won some auctions while I was sleeping (French collector here xD). > But I am pretty sure that there were people who bid just enough to reach my max bid. > How can they know my max bid ? It’s frustrating because I would probably made better deals. did you put an extra bid in while you were already leading? you are able to bid the minimum increment and check the bid history to bid the person up to their max that way. try not to put another bid in until you have been out bid, or if possible snipe instead ---
**Author:** ![darkchansey](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/darkchansey/32/993_2.png) [@darkchansey](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/darkchansey)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/622 "2018-07-31T06:31:35Z")
> [@acebren](#): > > > [@darkchansey](#): > > > > I won some auctions while I was sleeping (French collector here xD). > > But I am pretty sure that there were people who bid just enough to reach my max bid. > > How can they know my max bid ? It’s frustrating because I would probably made better deals. > > did you put an extra bid in while you were already leading? you are able to bid the minimum increment and check the bid history to bid the person up to their max that way. > > try not to put another bid in until you have been out bid, or if possible snipe instead I didn’t know… I will pay attention to this next time, thanks for the advice! [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812.md?page=30) [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812.md?page=32)