I know its probably not the easiest thing to analyze but is there anyway to see how Pokemon Card as a market as a whole has tracked against say Sports Cards/Yugioh/other similiar collectables.
We don’t exactly have an index to track clearly but just curious to know how much of the market growth is Pokemon specific vs whats happening in the general market vs similiar collectables!
Pokemonmarketcap.com has a lot of info but I don’t think it has a chart for the market as a whole, looks like they do track specific sets though. As for sports cards, not too sure on the different stuff out there, I took a peek at a couple resources but they’re paid. Cardladder is decent for short term market caps of specific cards though.
Closest thing I can think of is to track something like an Unlimited Charizard PSA 9/10 versus something like a Luka Doncic Base (or silver) Prizm RC PSA 9/10 and use that as a general measure of the market as a whole given that they’re both high pop/high volume cards.
So far I’ve pre-ordered 200 booster packs of Shining Fates. I’m not willing to pay more than $8/pack. I’ve been ordering ETBs at that price, and also some of the Cramorant V, Boltund V, and Eldegoss V tins. Those particular tins contain 6 packs each, so if you just want packs those tend to be the cheapest source.
I missed Hidden Fates since I was on a break from the hobby. So I’m focusing on Shining Fates for my own speculative modern investment (long term, not flipping). I’d like to keep most of my product sealed, but it sure will be tempting to crack the packs when they arrive…
Hopefully we’ll see shining Fates product get down to champions path price a few months after release. Shining Fates seems a hell of a lot better than champions path. I don’t think shining fades has the same level of star-studded cast as hidden Fates did.
Thanks just preordered one ETB, figured why not since 80 seems to be what most people were charging early on and I doubt to find any in stores for a while since I work 8-5.
I think the Kanazawa promo (one in the Pokémon center box) will do better in the long run. I’m mentioning this card because the price is similar to the swallowed up pikachu and they’re both released now. With so many pikachu cards, the card and art really needs to stand out (in a good way).
It’s been a year and a half since I last purchased Japanese PSA graded cards back in mid 2019. Life happened and I had to put my hobby on a hold for awhile. Surpised to see the market has changed for the worst in my opinion. So many cards which were once in my price range are now drastically out of my budget, specifically the JP cards. I have read through the earlier threads back in May 2020 commenting on this trend and how the market would likely correct itself once prices hit a peak point where buyers are uncomfortable forking out that premium. However I don’t see prices resuming/dropping to its previous price range and I would expect incremental increases to continue.
How does this affect my Japanese graded collection?
I likely have to adjust my expectations in collecting graded JP cards (previously I collected 10s)and may have to settle for lower grades. To be honest, this is the nail in the coffin for my graded japanese collection, I do not want to collect anything lower than a 9/10 and I refuse to pay the asking price for a PSA 10 Japanese Dark Hypno at $280 AUD where I live.
Just my 2 cents as collector who previously only purchased Japanese graded cards lower than $100. I probably will look into making a binder with non-graded cards going forward.
Alright this is probably a loong shot but does anyone know of any price data regarding the English VS cards? I’ve never seen one for sale publicly or heard of 1 sell privately ever - I think they’re considered 1 of the rarest cards in the hobby.
Its a risky action but definitely more cost effective if you just look for raw cards. Even in my short re-introduction to the hobby I’ve noticed Japanese cards can be in much better nick than English ones - especially when it comes to the holo. If you know what you are looking for you should manage to find 9s and 10s.
Hi all. I’ve been following this thread for a while now but haven’t made an account to post, until now.
Before all of the crazy price increases last year I completed my base set collection which consists of 1-16 PSA 9, 17-102 PSA 9 1st edition (both Pikachus), and also one of each light boosters in mint condition (not PSA’d though).
I’m looking to get opinions of where you think the base set market will be a number of years from now. I’m aware there’s a large backlog at PSA at the moment which means they’re likely to go down in value short term as things go back to normal. But what about longer term?
I purchased the set because I love Pokemon cards (well, the old ones anyway, very nostalgic for me as I grew up in the 90’s), but after seeing the price increase I can’t help but feel that long term, financially speaking, I would be better of selling the cards and putting the money in my S&S ISA.
I guess what I’m trying to ask is: do you have an idea of how much the set is worth, and how do you see this set as an investment piece?
In 3 years, the projected trajectory of 1st edition weedle is up 5000%, but in 8 years we may see a 700% drop in value. The holos are expected to go up 7% in exactly 2.378 years, and then fall in another 17.894 years
Realistically, whatever the seller wants. As a buyer you have no negotiating power when it comes to those cards. People have offered 5, maybe even 6 figures for the set at this point with very little interest from a seller.
Long term I think sealed Base product will continue to trend upwards in price. Especially considering the pace at which these packs are getting opened in recent years. So I would say your packs are the lowest risk among the items you listed. Next would probably be the 1st Ed PSA 9 Non-holos. I personally don’t follow the 1st edition Base market, but as long as the hobby remains huge and relevant, I can’t see those being worth any less than they are today, 5-10 years from now.
The Base Unlimited PSA 9 holos are trickier. The pop report is no where near optimized. There may exist twice as many of these cards a year from now, once PSA goes through their current backlog. I would expect continued volatility in that segment. However, in the truly long term I do think even these will end up being worth at least as much as they are today, but I expect the ride to be bumpy along the way.
You probably aren’t interested in things being worth at least as much as today. Obviously you wan’t a return of some kind. That’s getting into crystal ball territory, and no one cay say for certain what will happen.
