The Giant Professional Grading Thread

Anything graded at PSA with 60/40 should get a 9 at best.

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Anyone have experience grading the SV/ME cosmos foils? Almost all of mine have some sort of back corner lipping- is this normal? Does PSA take this into account?

Question for those with experience grading with BGS:

For centering requirements, would a card be able to get 10 centering subgrade with something like 50.8-49.2? Or is it generally more strict than that (i.e. requiring something like 50.3-49.7 centering)?

unfortunately, BGS has no guidelines on this. In fact, the offical statement from them is that centering is subjective
so you might have 1 grader willing to give a 10 fro 50.8/49.2 and another grader only willing to give that a 9.5 and there is no argument you can make to BGS to contest it.

a lot of times it depends on the card, if centering is whats holding up a black label they will often err on the side of caution and give out a 9.5

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Thanks,

I know black labels are unrealistic to expect, but I’m hoping to hunt a few BGS 10’s on some modern cards, and figured giving myself the best shot includes submitting cards that have as close to perfect centering as possible.

I guess I’ll just submit and see what happens!

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This is grading

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What grade would this card likely receive?

As far as I’m aware the only sort of damage that PSA or CGC doesn’t take into account it some silvering on the fronts of base set-jungle cards. This is because they consider it a factory cutting artifact and shouldn’t count against the grade. They would not make a promo with whitening on the corners a 10 just because all of the promos probably come with that.

And CGC 10 standard is 55/45, so if the rest of the card is also within the CGC standard, then you could theoretically get a 10 with 60/40 centering. This is because CGC can, at most, give one number grade above the lowest grade given to any category or a card.

PSA though, rn, is pretty strict on centering. Even cards that are within the 55/45 standard are getting 9s because they look at it for a second, see it’s off center, don’t care to measure, then call it a 9 and move on.

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What company?

9

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no higher than 9 based on centering.

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so it would be a better idea to grade with cgc?

Saw this video - what is this BGS bs. Send in the card 7 times from a bgs 9.5 to a bgs 10 gold label to black label 10.

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Variation in grader opinions allows this to happen, so the game has become about gambling convincing the right grader for the label

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Starter → Stage 1 → Stage 2.

The card just naturally leveled up. Can’t believe the Pokemon forum doesn’t understand evolution duh :sweat_smile:

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it’s normal I would say
I remember watching an interview of a grader who worked at bgs for 6 months and he said he only gave out 1 single black label. Think of all the tens of thousands of cards he would have graded in that time frame. Even the higher ups indicated to him, indirectly, that he was being harsh in his grading

Most of higher end black labels dont achieve that score on first sub. Even looking at some black label cards, when we get into the nitty gritty there are a lot of instances where the cut of the card shows poorly under 10x magnification and a grader can easily justify a 9.5 if they want to. surface is a big issue with modern as well. Even if you can find a card with no perceivable corner whitening or edgewear, the actual surface; particularly on the rear of the card, is rarely perfect. Usually you wont notice it but often the blue color isnt perfectly uniform everywhere and there are often tiny surface dimples that go unnoticed. Even if its only a single one that could be enough for grader to deny a 10 surface score. There is a reason black label is considered the ultimate. We like to poo poo on the BGS 9.5 but it really is their version of gem mint and in their eyes, 9.5 with all 9.5+ sub scores is the equivalent of a psa 10. A black label is a declaration of near perfection even under magnification

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