Hate when that happens. Tale old as time.
6 Likes
I can guarantee more people are interested in Mario Pikachu than a random ex with a population <30 PSA 10 or whatever.
I don’t even understand why people cannot see that. Oh, 1000 is too much - how many collectors do people think there are out there? lol
What is causing this cognitive dissonance? Copium? I can’t understand it.
5 Likes
What random ex? I don’t follow
4 Likes
Sorry wasn’t directly referring to your post.
I meant that there is a pervading perspective here that will compare these 1000 pop cards to some low pop ex card and say how the fundamentals aren’t there etc.
And I always wonder why they think popularity/demand doesn’t matter in this calculation.
4 Likes
Ah right. No my point was just that the Mario also has the fundamentals. Pop report isn’t eveyrhing.
Japanese worlds promo’s aren’t your run in the mail random low pop card 
4 Likes
This and the 279/XY-P are two of my favourite cards in Pokemon. No question.
But the increase in price on this card is just crazy in such a short space of time.
5 Likes
Mario pika definitely have the fundamentals. Pop 1000 isnt that high when compared to modern standards.
The card attracts mario and pokemon fans, definitely garner more attention than random low pop ex cards. There’s a reason for consistent high sales for this card.
4 Likes
I just looked up the 279 promo, over 700 in a PSA 10 and still selling for $6-7k in a 10. I ask myself how? Rather than just looking at the 10 pop, I look at how many are currently listed and I see 3 copies currently on eBay. For pop 900, only 3 actively available feels artificially low, but I guess it is what it is?
3 Likes
This is one of those for me that got out of reach,
I’ll get one someday… whoops too late.
4 Likes
Looking at the pop of a card is useless without taking into account the demand for it. The artwork on that card is iconic.
There do seem to be really few listed for sale - in any grade or raw. I haven’t kept up to date on that card and looked for the first time too. There was a period you could pick them up pretty easily (even in the last 12 months or so) but availability does seem to have dried up a bit.
7 Likes
The artworks is iconic? First I’ve ever heard this card described that way. I love Kanto just as much as the next guy, and I love the concept of this card but honestly the style of the art on this card just doesn’t do it for me (subjective, I know). My point about the pop was I didn’t know the market was that deep to hold a $6-7k price point on a card with a pop in that range, until I saw the supply seemed suspiciously low for a modern card with that many copies graded. I would expect 10-15 to be on the market.
4 Likes
I think the artwork is iconic and I’m not a Gen 1 or Pikachu collector. If it was the first card to have that format of Pikachu plus the three starters it’s even more iconic. Sword and Shield and Scarlet and Violet have had promos that harken back to it using those generation’s starters.
5 Likes
I ‘overpaid’ for the card in 2019 because I wanted it no matter what. Glad I did and I’m never letting it go no matter the temptation of price. I can imagine the same for those who acquired it early because it is quite unique in a lot of ways combined and 7 years later there hasn’t been a Kanto-starter Pikachu full art participation prize anniversary promo like it.
I think the main contributing factors are:
- Pikachu full art
- anniversary promo (20th logo)
- Japanese exclusive
- participation prize
- all 4 Kanto starters
- Naoki Saito (massive premium for a well known modern artist who drew other very expensive limited release cards e.g. 20th Here Comes Team Rocket!, The Masked Royal FA, EBD Lillie, etc)
8 Likes
Hopefully Masked Royal comes to Chinese lol.
Though with Giovanni and Team Rocket from the briefcase, I’ll never get all the supporters.
4 Likes
This sentiment is exactly what drives prices up. And more than people think.
There are some cards which have wider/universal appeal which people love having in their collection.
So even if the pop report is “high” at 1,000 copies, if 950 of those people who own a copy have no plans to sell then there aren’t 1,000 liquid copies of the card available on the market, it’s closer to 50.
12 Likes
I’ve been watching 25th JP Promos because they’re awesome and I want to collect them, but the prices and availability have just been all over the damn place. Unfortunately, the 25th Shining Magikarp I pulled and submitted to PSA was lost, so I’ll be in the market to buy one now, and they’ve increased to about 7000 yen. Birthday Pika was out of stock for a damn while, but now A- condition is back in stock for 13, 400 yen, which is about 5000 yen higher than the highest condition ones were about 2 months ago (7900). So, I assume that when the A+ (or whatever they call them) condition ones come back, they’ll be closer to double, around 15, 000 yen. Charizard is also now 10,000 yen more expensive, sitting at 36, 800 yen (compared to the prices I record 2 months ago). Umbreon Star has also increased by about 7000 yen.
I am not really sure what’s causing the intense short-term volatility in these cards over this winter. They were just chilling in the summer, and then suddenly by like September, they started going crazy. I am not sure if maybe the late summer reprint brought more attention… It’s also possible the TCG getting it’s mainland China releases could be garnering more demand for JP singles and promos (I’ve heard theories about this, but have no real way to support it, so take it with a grain of salt). Overall, I find this to be exhausting. I just wanna pick these cards up for my binders and what not, but with the prices on such a rollercoaster, it’s too difficult. In general, settling for B state cards for the binder is probably gonna have to be the move, which kinda sucks because these are the kinda sacrifices I expect to have to make for vintage binders, not sets that just came out.
Price and availability quoted from cardrush. Also, last recording was in December, which at this point, is a bit closer to 3 months, though I didn’t add much through December because things were relatively stagnant.
6 Likes
Thanks for sharing! I’ve been paying attention to the prices for these too since I love the holo pattern and the stamp. I paid up for the Umbreon recently. Fortunately pulled the Karp awhile back. Ended up getting the original Japanese birthday Pikachu in binder condition because the price is fairly similar to the cheapest price available for the reprint 
At least with the Umbreon I know the original is out of reach.
6 Likes
wow that’s crazy about the original JP birthday pika lol! i bought the umbreon in the summer for like $60, was surprised to see the price movements. hopefully they settle down a bit so i can pick more of them up lol!
5 Likes
I’ve been eyeing on that 25th celebration japanese magikarp to go down since it was released and it’s gone up since. Wish i bought it earlier
5 Likes
I kicked myself hard at the time for FOMOing on the 25th Anniversary Charizard at 16,000 yen. Now so many peoples random binders worth are 1000s of dollars for pretty basic ass modern stuff. Even though I benefited like most people I still wonder if it’s a good thing not , Oh well.
6 Likes