Commenting on these posts, and for the other guy, not sure how to get 3 posts in 1 thread, too old.
Here is the actual breakdown
□ Participation Award: 2 play points as an entry point
□ Winning Prize ①: Play Point 10 points
· Junior / Senior League · Preliminary Premier Stage 3 consecutive victories
· Master League · · 5 wins (5 matches victory) or more
□ Winning Prize ②
: Original deck shield
: 1 piece of promotion card “Sorgao” or “Lunarara”
· Junior / Senior League · Climax stage advancement
· Master League · Top 16 each block
So I can offer 2 reasons to the guy asking if paying $800 is good.
The event has only been held at the 1st event so far, still 2 more to go. I think at max 1/4 of the prizes have been awarded, though it might be between 1/3 and 1/4.
The information in that listing is wrong, I think. I say I think as I am going what is written online and I have not been to my event yet, Chiba will be where I go. But it seems like you have 2 ways of winning, top 16 of each block, and more importantly the Winning Prize ① this could add a lot of cards to the pool.
For a buy decision I would be looking at auctions just after May 20/21, and May 28th this the last day of the event so if still expensive I would be looking at pulling the trigger then. Soon after they will be harder to find if they are not really common, we will have to see how hard they are really to win.
Danger-Danger-Warning-Warning
Cards from these events are often not PSA even 9 let alone 10. A lot of the traders are too cheap to even put the cards in a penny sleeve.
What sort of a PSA grade do you think a card with a crease like this would warrant? I have no great talent for being able to decipher grades based on a few photos with poor lighting.
How does ~$1630 USD compare to what ungraded copies of this card have sold for in the past?
Either way, I have to assume that the price is being heavily discounted based on its condition.
Every card starts as a 10 when grading. Imperfections knock it down from there. The more it hurts eye appeal the more it lowers the grade. Scratches, whitening etc. all add up in little increments, but cards can still achieve a 10 with one or two of either/both (very minor). When a crease/bend/major indentation comes into play, that is an automatic 4 point deduction, so the card now starts at a 6 with deductions subtracting from there. I am talking very minor, overall MINT looking cards can get a 6 from very slight corner bends (think masaki promos or any other peel away promos). Being that this is a fairly major indentation, I would imagine this would be 4-5 range at best if it doesn’t hugely impact the eye appeal on the front. It is very hard to tell from the photo. If this indent shows from the front and really hurts the eye appeal I could see this card as a PSA 2-5 range, but very hard to say without having it in hand.
The khan may not have been the greatest condition, but it’s a card that still warrants the price it got. If it were actually in the nm range it would have probably gotten a thousand dollars more so I feel like it’s definitely fair for what it is.
I’m just saying this as a collector who buys cards besides the nm and gems. Maybe I’m soft in the head
No you are spot on! Most people incorrectly valuated trophy cards. They tend to quote prices from months-a year ago, as there are not many public sales to reference. The issue being that the market has changed since then.
I discussed this a bit in a video, using the psa 10 gretzky rookie as an example. It sold for 94k in 2010-11, and then hit auction again years later. Typically in Pokemon people would claim, “it sold for 94k, so will probably be worth around that price”. When in reality, it ended at 5 times the price, at 450k. Basically if people treat trophy cards like set cards, you are going to have a bad time.