# TCA Cross Grading Result PSA to CGC **URL:** \ **Category:** Grading\ **Tags:** youtube, psa, cross-grading, cgc\ **Created:** [April 11, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895 "2023-04-11T22:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Will](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/will/32/223509_2.png) [@Will](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/21 "2023-04-12T04:38:33Z")
I’m not saying that didn’t happen, I’m just saying that if you resubmit 1000 PSA 5s, I bet 99% will be come back PSA 4-6 with most of them 5s. Here is one non-verifiable example of a potential CGC “error”. Not sure it matters too much though, I’m sure there are plenty of CGC and PSA and BGS misgrades out there. > **[Pokemon Rocket's Scyther Gym CGC 7.5 misgrade subs 9, 9, 9 and unjustified 6.5...](https://www.ebay.com/itm/304453167504?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=y9eDSealTXe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Y4mVUgscTda&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)** > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Pokemon Rocket's Scyther Gym CGC 7.5 misgrade subs 9, 9, 9 and unjustified 6.5 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products! ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/22 "2023-04-12T04:54:10Z")
I’d really need to see that card myself which won’t happen unless I buy it but definitely appreciate finding it thanks. I know there’s more psa than cgc and more cgc than bgs available to buy so I’m going to see more psa errors than cgc it’s just that I’m not seeing any. BGS is just full of them. Psa I am seeing stuff and cgc I keep trying to find it. One thing I do know is my cgc 9s on average look better than my psa 9s and I’ll be cracking them in the future to send to psa along with psa 9s so I’m going to find out what does better at psa. If graded properly I’m expecting my cgc 9s will do better as a lot look better than my psa 10s that i have. Everybody please feel free to send any dodgy looking cgcs my way thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Pbali](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pbali/32/360_2.png) [@Pbali](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Pbali)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 6:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/23 "2023-04-12T06:24:02Z")
Here’s one: [2006 Pokemon CGC 10 Pristine Japanese Tropical Tidal Wave World Championships | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/314505848664?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=KjPPaw_HR9C&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=c2ULypGUSvy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) ---
**Author:** ![PokemonProfessor](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemonprofessor/32/75604_2.png) [@PokemonProfessor](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/PokemonProfessor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/24 "2023-04-12T06:25:39Z")
Would it be possible for you to link/repost those results here? Seems that they are difficult to find in this huge grading thread. ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/25 "2023-04-12T06:44:12Z")
Great thanks. Its hard to tell with the lighting and reflecting. It could well be im just unsure. ---
**Author:** ![odds](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/odds/32/1909_2.png) [@odds](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/odds)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 7:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/26 "2023-04-12T07:33:00Z")
I can only see what I want to see… PSA = really bad but imma send cards to them You have lost me on this thread ---
**Author:** ![jac2357](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jac2357/32/76046_2.png) [@jac2357](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jac2357)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/27 "2023-04-12T07:38:53Z")
I’m trying my best not to lose faith in psa. Is that so wrong? ---
**Author:** ![mrbubbles](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mrbubbles/32/255723_2.png) [@mrbubbles](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mrbubbles)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 8:28am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/28 "2023-04-12T08:28:36Z")
> [@jac2357](#): > > It explains why many psa 5s go back in and get a 10. No one looked at it as that can’t happen if they did. I’d bet that everybody here who looked at a real psa 5 contendor would never ever give it a 10. I can’t find a single case of cgc 5/6 being cracked and coming back a cgc 9.5 or 10. I actually want to believe in psa because they’ve been the standard for years but I’m just finding that it isn’t the case. > [@Discussion on the consistency of PSA grading](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/discussion-on-the-consistency-of-psa-grading/38095/66): > > Remember all condition cards can score a 10 so whats the problem? This one achieved its highest quicker than others thats all. 😜 Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![PokemonProfessor](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemonprofessor/32/75604_2.png) [@PokemonProfessor](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/PokemonProfessor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/29 "2023-04-12T09:50:19Z")
In this thread, some people argue that PSA’s pop control could have led to stricter grading. I am not taking a standpoint here but was wondering whether there is any evidence for this contention? And if yes, about what apprx. cert number do we talk? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![joetehman](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joetehman/32/452_2.png) [@joetehman](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joetehman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/30 "2023-04-12T12:38:02Z")
No. This comes up every year or so about PSA being more strict or lenient with cert XX. Literally since like the early 2000s, its kind of funny. ---
**Author:** ![traineramy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/traineramy/32/132565_2.png) [@traineramy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/traineramy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/31 "2023-04-12T13:16:58Z")
Yes, but first gen label PSA cards truly are poop lol Certs 2x through 7x are pretty consistent ---
**Author:** ![kevinertia](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kevinertia/32/2410_2.png) [@kevinertia](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kevinertia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/32 "2023-04-12T14:22:52Z")
This. I’ve cracked and re-graded hundreds of cards and almost every single one ended up with a higher grade, even with the same grading company, _because I specifically picked those cards_ that were “undergraded” or would benefit from the different categorical standards (i.e. PSA treating an indent as an auto 6 or lower) between companies. Seeing people try to judge it as any kind of statistical trend between companies is asinine because the whole point of re-grading is selecting outliers. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/33 "2023-04-12T14:29:10Z")
![survivorship_bias_2x](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/f/e/fe8bc755d9138ca0b46bdcbe95ab2e1241061d23.png) ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/34 "2023-04-12T15:50:27Z")
Agreed with many others here. Selection bias is a massive issue. We take the best looking cards to crack, not the “fair” grades. You can’t judge crossovers fairly if you choose the cards with the best shot at improving in grade. ---
**Author:** ![TCGFish](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tcgfish/32/244_2.png) [@TCGFish](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/TCGFish)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895/35 "2023-04-12T16:11:52Z")
totally agree, now this makes more sense. [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/tca-cross-grading-result-psa-to-cgc/40895.md?page=1)