# Shadowless PSA 9 Holos **URL:** \ **Category:** Market\ **Created:** [November 13, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636 "2017-11-13T18:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![moejoe1992](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/moejoe1992/32/244_2.png) [@moejoe1992](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/moejoe1992)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/21 "2017-11-15T05:44:34Z")
Wow I bought a complete PSA 9 shadowless holo set about a month ago for $2300, you mean to tell me just the charizard now is worth more than that?? ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/22 "2017-11-15T05:54:38Z")
> [@moejoe1992](#): > > Wow I bought a complete PSA 9 shadowless holo set about a month ago for $2300, you mean to tell me just the charizard now is worth more than that?? It depends, condition can vary within a grade ---
**Author:** ![moejoe1992](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/moejoe1992/32/244_2.png) [@moejoe1992](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/moejoe1992)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:00am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/23 "2017-11-15T06:00:43Z")
I’m interested to know how much it can vary within a grade! Is their a metric that details exactly what details allow or disallow a card within a grade to be that grade? ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/24 "2017-11-15T06:10:06Z")
> [@moejoe1992](#): > > I’m interested to know how much it can vary within a grade! Is their a metric that details exactly what details allow or disallow a card within a grade to be that grade? They do have guidelines to follow, you can have strong and weak examples of a grade, when you have a strong example (lets say of a PSA 9), the price increases partly due to the possibility of regrading it and getting a soft 10 ---
**Author:** ![moejoe1992](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/moejoe1992/32/244_2.png) [@moejoe1992](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/moejoe1992)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/25 "2017-11-15T06:11:46Z")
Yah I’ve seen a lot of videos with strong/soft 9 and 10s, I just wish their was a guide detailing all the specifics. I bet PSA employees have guides like that ---
**Author:** ![Kuja](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kuja/32/2316_2.png) [@Kuja](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Kuja)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/26 "2017-11-15T22:07:37Z")
After these years, many of these psa9s or ungraded zards still get sold fast… This reminds me of an incident back then when a certain person bought out all ungraded shadowless zards for one and only one purpose: putting fake 1st ed stamps on all of the cards and then resold them on ebay or elsewhere for mad profits. ---
**Author:** ![mthursty](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mthursty/32/159700_2.png) [@mthursty](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mthursty)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/27 "2017-11-15T23:45:51Z")
> [@danza21](#): > > The Shadowless PSA 9 Charizard holo is at $2,075 with a day left to go. I have attached the link below. What do you guys think is the ceiling for this card, as well as other Shadowless PSA 9 Holos over the next 1-2 years? > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Base-Set-Shadowless-Charizard-Holo-4-PSA-9-Mint/302518828431?hash=item466f86fd8f:g:DDYAAOSwv-ZaAkwX](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Base-Set-Shadowless-Charizard-Holo-4-PSA-9-Mint/302518828431?hash=item466f86fd8f:g:DDYAAOSwv-ZaAkwX) How sad is this Poliwrath? ![](https://imgur.com/a/u4FeY) ![](https://imgur.com/a/u4FeY) ![](https://imgur.com/tWGT0Q7) ![](https://i.imgur.com/tWGT0Q7.jpg) Will he ever amount to anything? ![](https://i.imgur.com/nJiKpC6.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![yz2428](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/yz2428/32/564_2.png) [@yz2428](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/yz2428)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 7:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636/28 "2017-12-05T07:37:21Z")
> [@mthursty](#): > > > [@danza21](#): > > > > The Shadowless PSA 9 Charizard holo is at $2,075 with a day left to go. I have attached the link below. What do you guys think is the ceiling for this card, as well as other Shadowless PSA 9 Holos over the next 1-2 years? > > > > [www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Base-Set-Shadowless-Charizard-Holo-4-PSA-9-Mint/302518828431?hash=item466f86fd8f:g:DDYAAOSwv-ZaAkwX](https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Pokemon-Base-Set-Shadowless-Charizard-Holo-4-PSA-9-Mint/302518828431?hash=item466f86fd8f:g:DDYAAOSwv-ZaAkwX) > > How sad is this Poliwrath? > > ![](https://imgur.com/a/u4FeY) ![](https://imgur.com/a/u4FeY) ![](https://imgur.com/tWGT0Q7) ![](https://i.imgur.com/tWGT0Q7.jpg) > > Will he ever amount to anything? > > ![](https://i.imgur.com/nJiKpC6.jpg) Very sad image indeed, crushed by 200 pounds of pure awesome. [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-psa-9-holos/18636.md?page=1)