# Shadowless charizard in CT scanned pack **URL:** \ **Category:** Question\ **Tags:** charizard, booster-packs, ct-scan\ **Created:** [March 21, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952 "2025-03-21T01:24:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/1 "2025-03-21T01:24:34Z")
So I used the Industrial-Inspection scanning service and I have a charizard in my booster pack. I was thrilled to find in my email this morning the CT scan image update, very cool feeling. I am leaning towards opening the pack myself atm. But I wanted to hear other vintage collectors opinions on what they think the value of the booster pack is now to a buyer. (lets assume best case scenario, the buyer knows its shadowless and they have assurances etc) What do yall think? The scan itself wasnt the greatest resolution, but more than enough to confirm the card. the company admit they had a small error when scanning and they typically are better quality. ![ii1160_Charizard - Pack 2](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/7/0/7020f45eccf37ebfa4657d0d2f265c7652e49c26.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![qwachansey](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/qwachansey/32/47483_2.png) [@qwachansey](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/qwachansey)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/2 "2025-03-21T01:29:13Z")
Imo open it, you can guarantee the Zard to a buyer but you can’t guarantee the condition, could easily be a psa 8 out of the pack. When else will you get the opportunity to pull a Shadowless zard without having to risk wasting thousands pulling trainer rares? Take a video and it will be a great advertisement for the service you used. ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/will/32/223509_2.png) [@Will](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/3 "2025-03-21T01:36:14Z")
How do you match up the scanning result to the pack? Is it put into a tamper proof bag or something with a serial number? ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/4 "2025-03-21T01:37:16Z")
I’d keep it sealed personally 🙂 Likely won’t be a 10, but I’m sure you could sell it for over a PSA 9 price if you wanted to maximise the $$$ out of your item. ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/6 "2025-03-21T01:54:39Z")
It’s a shame that you didn’t open the Charizard organically. That would have been a really wonderful memory. I’m sure there are rich parents out there who would pay handsomely to let their child open a confirmed Shadowless Charizard. ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/7 "2025-03-21T02:03:50Z")
I was wondering that as well. what the odds are pack fresh ends up psa 10 9 or 8 typically. ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/8 "2025-03-21T02:06:13Z")
I only scanned two packs myself(the other was a raichu), and they were different arts packs. But I did put them in a plastic sleeve and sealed them with a tamper proof seal(as recommended by industrial-service themselves) ---
**Author:** ![RabidSquirtle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rabidsquirtle/32/236211_2.png) [@RabidSquirtle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/RabidSquirtle)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/9 "2025-03-21T02:06:45Z")
But what happens when the parents realize that their son asked for another shadowless charizard? Or when their kid has wanted this for several years and it would make their kids dreams. Jokes aside I’m not sure if there are many parents who even know about the CT scanning, I’m sure there are some parents if they saw this would buy it for their kids after learning how it works, I’m just unsure how many parents even know what shadowless is, I’m sure there’s a rich parent waiting out there to buy something like this though it’s a good thought, I’m just unsure how this would price probably somewhere between raw mint and graded 10 ---
**Author:** ![Will](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/will/32/223509_2.png) [@Will](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Will)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/10 "2025-03-21T02:07:46Z")
Not that I wouldn’t trust you, but what’s the value if they’re just sent back to the submittor without any way to confirm those were the packs that were scanned? I would just open it, doesn’t seem like there would be much resale value imo ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/11 "2025-03-21T02:08:49Z")
@acebren > [@acebren](#): > > I’d keep it sealed personally 🙂 Likely won’t be a 10, but I’m sure you could sell it for over a PSA 9 price if you wanted to maximise the $$$ out of your item. I may keep it sealed, haven’t decided yet. But the temptation to open is pretty strong. even my wife wants to open it. I thought other ppl may value it at around psa9 price as well. > [@Dyl](#): > > It’s a shame that you didn’t open the Charizard organically. That would have been a really wonderful memory. > > I dont feel that way at all. seeing the email of the charizard was pretty exciting, and I still have potentially opening the pack to look forward too. So I see it as having two huge events to be excited about. But I can understand your view as well. > > I’m sure there are rich parents out there who would pay handsomely to let their child open a confirmed Shadowless Charizard. LOL yea maybe > [@Will](#): > > Not that I wouldn’t trust you, but what’s the value if they’re just sent back to the submittor without any way to confirm those were the packs that were scanned? > > I would just open it, doesn’t seem like there would be much resale value imo This is why I said assume best scenario. If I were to sell it. I would likely only do so in person . trust goes both ways too, someone could claim I didnt send them the correct pack. If i were to buy it myself. I would open in on site! ---
**Author:** ![RabidSquirtle](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rabidsquirtle/32/236211_2.png) [@RabidSquirtle](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/RabidSquirtle)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/12 "2025-03-21T02:10:53Z")
> [@stravi757](#): > > even my wife Happy wife happy life, that’s my best advice ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/13 "2025-03-21T02:16:39Z")
Its a learning process! ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/14 "2025-03-21T02:24:34Z")
> [@stravi757](#): > > I dont feel that way at all. seeing the email of the charizard was pretty exciting, and I still have potentially opening the pack to look forward too. So I see it as having two huge events to be excited about. But I can understand your view as well. If that’s the case, then I think you should open it and enjoy the memory with your wife! ---
**Author:** ![octaane](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/octaane/32/1780_2.png) [@octaane](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/octaane)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/15 "2025-03-21T04:03:28Z")
Keep it sealed. TBH I’d get it scanned again. ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/16 "2025-03-21T04:08:45Z")
Definitely open ---
**Author:** ![Bodega](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/bodega/32/173057_2.png) [@Bodega](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Bodega)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/17 "2025-03-21T04:36:10Z")
Listen I’d open, but if you’re thinking about selling it then you’re probably pretty hesitant. I think a fair assessment of its price would be around a PSA 9. An actual chance at a 10, but the average pack in 2025 holds an 8 most likely. But the thing there is I think a PSA 9 Shadowless Charizard probably increases in price a decent amount over the years, so that pack probably increases too. ---
**Author:** ![gengaranimal](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gengaranimal/32/1527_2.png) [@gengaranimal](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gengaranimal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/18 "2025-03-21T05:14:34Z")
I’d open it esp if wife concurs, but you can’t tell me you wouldn’t be able to find some super rich sod preparing for 7 y/o Remington Yokelborough III’s birthday party so he can open a Zard pack. I mean we hid sand dollars on the beach for my kid to find, this would just be next level. Chase would be finding the buyer. I think you could absolutely double up on value and there’s no rush so what the heck. Then you can just buy a 10. ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/19 "2025-03-21T14:10:29Z")
Scanned again for what? ---
**Author:** ![stravi757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stravi757/32/37875_2.png) [@stravi757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stravi757)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/20 "2025-03-21T14:12:01Z")
How did you conclude a fresh pack most likely holds an 8? ---
**Author:** ![octaane](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/octaane/32/1780_2.png) [@octaane](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/octaane)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952/21 "2025-03-21T14:17:27Z")
To double check - they admitted it wasn’t the best scan, and if that card is what you think it is, you may as well get rock-solid confirmation. Just my 2 cents! [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/shadowless-charizard-in-ct-scanned-pack/54952.md?page=2)