# RARE?! PONYTA 1ST EDITION BASE SET ENGLISH UNLIMITED HELP

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**Created:** [April 18, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377 "2016-04-18T03:26:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/1 "2016-04-18T03:26:12Z")

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I have a 1st edition stamped ponyta from base set. English but it looks like an unlimited card. I have not seen anything that shows these exist for any base set card. Does anyone have any information? !

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**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/2 "2016-04-18T03:27:20Z")

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Pictures would help us make an accurate assessment as to what you have.

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/3 "2016-04-18T03:32:10Z")

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Where the heck is the attachment button ?!

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/4 "2016-04-18T03:50:20Z")

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link

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/5 "2016-04-18T03:51:04Z")

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[![](http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn153/cdogg85/Mobile%20Uploads/20160417_233027.jpg)](http://s303.photobucket.com/user/cdogg85/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160417_233027.jpg.html)

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**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/6 "2016-04-18T04:19:32Z")

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Probably fake. Some people have tried to apply fake 1st edition stamps to Shadowless or Unlimited cards to make them seem like 1ED cards. Don’t know why this would be done with a lowly Ponyta though. I don’t see how it could be real as there’s an entire print run (shadowless) in between Base 1ED and Base Unlimited.

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**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/7 "2016-04-18T05:17:09Z")

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yep its a fake, and not just the stamp, the whole card

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**Author:** ![areestee](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/areestee/32/441_2.png) [@areestee](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/areestee)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/8 "2016-04-18T06:48:59Z")

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Looking at the card’s background made me think it was fake, then I looked up the real thing and came to the horrifying realization that the background was actually that bad. xD

But yeah, it’s fake.

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**Author:** ![milhouse](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/milhouse/32/326_2.png) [@milhouse](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/milhouse)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/9 "2016-04-18T06:54:01Z")

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As far as fakes go it’s of better ‘quality’ than most fakes.

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**Author:** ![justinator](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/justinator/32/144154_2.png) [@justinator](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/justinator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/10 "2016-04-18T06:54:50Z")

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I’d be curious to feel it and also to see the back. That’s where most fakes fall short.

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**Author:** ![snap](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/snap/32/2622_2.png) [@snap](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/snap)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 8:51am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/11 "2016-04-18T08:51:54Z")

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Interesting find

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/12 "2016-04-18T14:41:37Z")

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The back has the TM trademark… the stamp wasn’t cleaned around and won’t rub off… compared it to my 1st edition base set cards still looks same. Feels like any other card… I don’t know what to think

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/13 "2016-04-18T14:56:04Z")

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![](http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn153/cdogg85/Mobile%20Uploads/20160417_233037.jpg)

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**Author:** ![matt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/matt/32/506_2.png) [@matt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/matt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/14 "2016-04-18T14:58:02Z")

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What stands out to me is the he text at the bottom (the line where is says Illus. Ken Sugimori etc).  
This shouldn’t be so close to the yellow border.

Additionally, I don’t know if its the photo but the “40 HP” doesn’t look right, its almost merging with the background.  
Either the text colour should be darker or the background should be lighter.

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**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/15 "2016-04-18T15:00:50Z")

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the cards not right, the colours off, very fuzzy look to it, the copyright text at the bottom is too close to the yellow border, oh and its got a 1st edition stamp on an unlimited card… sorry but its fake

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**Author:** ![gordobritt](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gordobritt/32/244_2.png) [@gordobritt](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gordobritt)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/16 "2016-04-18T15:09:51Z")

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Okay I guess it is… I just thought it was neat to find it fooled me but that is a good point with the bottom text being so close to the bottom practically on it! Thanks everyone! I will destroy it so it will not get passed around !

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**Author:** ![omahanime](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/omahanime/32/391_2.png) [@omahanime](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/omahanime)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/17 "2016-04-18T23:37:19Z")

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What about the offset in the energy symbols?

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**Author:** ![kkthxbai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kkthxbai/32/329_2.png) [@kkthxbai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kkthxbai)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-ponyta-1st-edition-base-set-english-unlimited-help/14377/18 "2016-04-19T07:06:36Z")

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Yeah the yellow is off at the front. And the back is obviously those flimsy counterfeit blues where it’s printed to dark.
