# Rare Error Price Check **URL:** \ **Category:** Market\ **Tags:** upccc-archive\ **Created:** [September 28, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294 "2014-09-28T18:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/1 "2014-09-28T18:43:23Z")
For those of you with interest and experience in unique errors, which card would have the most value: A card that had like a 1 inch square random piece of newspaper that somehow floated and stuck between the foil and printing stages Or A related piece of scrap stuck in there, like company logo or dates you’d find at the end of the foil roll. Think Cigar Hitmonlee error, for those of you familiar with that iconic error, which would be considered a random or unrelated object. ---
**Author:** ![aj1](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/aj1/32/345_2.png) [@aj1](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/aj1)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/2 "2014-09-28T19:28:17Z")
Pictures? ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/3 "2014-09-28T19:56:11Z")
> [@aj1](#): > > Pictures? Just hypothetical right now…no pics. ---
**Author:** ![churlocker](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/churlocker/32/100762_2.png) [@churlocker](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/churlocker)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/4 "2014-09-28T20:14:47Z")
I’d personally value the second higher with ONE exception: the piece of newspaper displays a date. ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/5 "2014-09-28T20:52:43Z")
> [@churlocker](#): > > I’d personally value the second higher with ONE exception: the piece of newspaper displays a date. Interesting observation:) ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/6 "2014-09-28T20:57:20Z")
So that’s: 1 vote “Related Object” 0 votes “Unrelated Object” Give me your votes guys:) ---
**Author:** ![cbd1235](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cbd1235/32/269_2.png) [@cbd1235](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cbd1235)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/7 "2014-09-28T21:57:53Z")
I would generally prefer the related object personally. But for something like this, it’s all on a case-by-case basis. There’s potential for some really cool stuff within both categories. …do you have something to show us 😉? ---
**Author:** ![azulryu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/azulryu/32/54539_2.png) [@azulryu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/azulryu)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/8 "2014-09-28T21:59:19Z")
Definitely would have to say the second one. Anything that ties a card with it’s maker or the place of origin is definitely a much more interesting piece in my book. That being said, I can easily see someone greatly interested in such a screw up as a newspaper print in a card! ---
**Author:** ![kkthxbai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kkthxbai/32/329_2.png) [@kkthxbai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kkthxbai)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/9 "2014-09-28T23:34:22Z")
Blerh I don’t really like collecting errors much… I guess because I actually pulled a machine made error cut from a 1st edition revelation booster box… that stupid 1st ed shining magikarp I mentioned a while ago. It has been sliced across the front when being cut wrongly. Which just looks like a massive scratch. Its a real error from WOTC but not looked upon highly by collectors. I’ve even pulled some Chinese base cards where the holo-foil had melted into the card above, and the entire front sheet became wrinkly. It was peeling off heavily, and I threw them away just last year. This was probably induced by being stored in a hot environment, although the pack was not saturated by light or heat. If I had to choose anything, I guess unrelated, as it is perhaps more unlikely, and rarer? than the other. Related production errors I have pulled just seem less aesthetically pleasing to people, and can be somewhat faked? an unrelated would be difficult to fake like that cigar. ---
**Author:** ![soulwind](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/soulwind/32/292_2.png) [@soulwind](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/soulwind)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/10 "2014-09-29T00:59:42Z")
> [@churlocker](#): > > I’d personally value the second higher with ONE exception: the piece of newspaper displays a date. I definitely echo this opinion. ---
**Author:** ![pokeoz](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokeoz/32/280_2.png) [@pokeoz](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokeoz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/11 "2014-09-29T03:10:34Z")
“Related object” would appeal more to me and I agree it should be able to establish a timeline or a direct correlation. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![abv150](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/abv150/32/299_2.png) [@abv150](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/abv150)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 9:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/12 "2014-09-29T09:01:47Z")
I’d prefer the related object, but like said before there are exceptions. It all depends on what is displayed on the piece of newspaper (date, piece of a puzzle or cartoon, name of an important person etc would be sweet). ---
**Author:** ![milhouse](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/milhouse/32/326_2.png) [@milhouse](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/milhouse)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/13 "2014-09-29T12:30:48Z")
Honestly it all depends on what the unrelated object actually is. So for now I will go with Related Object. ---
**Author:** ![fmtu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fmtu/32/325_2.png) [@fmtu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fmtu)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/14 "2014-09-30T01:12:25Z")
Does anyone have a picture of the cigar label Hitmonlee? I can’t find one anywhere on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/15 "2014-09-30T01:21:44Z")
Thanks for all the input. Here’s the deal. The card I’m talking about IS that iconic error “Cigar Hitmonlee”. I’m sure some of you are quite familiar with it;) My friend Reuben, who is a new member here on UPCCC, flew up here to Vegas to talk Pokemon. While we were going over some of my extreme oddities he saw this card and decided we should research it based on the info and logo we could decipher on the scrap. Turns out…it was a scrap from the end of the Holofoil roll and has the name of the company and their logo that produced the foil for Wizards of the Coast. It has the ‘Red Crown’ logo and the company’s name Crown Roll Leaf Inc. Just based on that name you can understand how it got its name as the “Cigar Hitmonlee” error;) On this ipad I’m having trouble uploading a pic but maybe someone else here can locate and post a pic. Here’s the Crown Roll Leaf website: [www.crownrollleaf.com/foils\_holographic\_patterns.html](http://www.crownrollleaf.com/foils_holographic_patterns.html) ---
**Author:** ![kkthxbai](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kkthxbai/32/329_2.png) [@kkthxbai](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kkthxbai)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/16 "2014-09-30T01:31:10Z")
[![](http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/ITSMINENIGGAH/Overprinted1_zps4f13e4431_zpsa9cc29bd.jpg)](http://s1253.photobucket.com/user/ITSMINENIGGAH/media/Overprinted1_zps4f13e4431_zpsa9cc29bd.jpg.html) Lol… we already have it in another thread. I thought I saw it before here. Behold. ---
**Author:** ![fmtu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fmtu/32/325_2.png) [@fmtu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fmtu)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/18 "2014-09-30T03:05:06Z")
Nice detective work, that’s cool! ---
**Author:** ![azulryu](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/azulryu/32/54539_2.png) [@azulryu](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/azulryu)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/19 "2014-09-30T04:00:52Z")
Such an awesome error. ---
**Author:** ![tonysandlin](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tonysandlin/32/300_2.png) [@tonysandlin](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/tonysandlin)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 6:46am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/20 "2014-09-30T06:46:08Z")
Incredible! It’s one of the few errors that really stand out. I love how we are always discovering new things about cards that have been around for over a decade. ---
**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294/21 "2014-09-30T21:58:24Z")
Yes Tony. It’s certainly amongst my top 3 collectibles. Having witnessed the sheet cutting process, how this happened is even more surprising than you’d think. It’s because the start and end of the foil roll is cut off in one piece, not shredded into small pieces. Quite odd… [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/rare-error-price-check/12294.md?page=2)