What I don’t understand is how PSA will sustainable be able to charge so much more based on card value. The service is identical. The other companies have nowhere near the same discrepancy.
Do you guys think PSA ever gets enough pushback where their top tier prices come down to reality or do other companies copy the practice?
I started with Psa and will finish with Psa. I am to lazy to change XD
chrispy:
If you are grading cards to flip, then you can pass the bill onto the buyer. But if you are grading for your personal collection and are agreeing to upgrade fees/terms based on an articulated grading wait-time of 3 months, only to receive your card 1+ year down the road, then my opinion is that you should be upcharged based on whatever the card was valued at when that 3-month time limit expired, not what it’s value is when they finally get around to grading.
Collectors that are having to injest unpredictable upcharges on cards they never wanted to sell, are now feeling forced into a position where they NEED to sell part of their collection. It really does feel like extortion. PSA is a liability to a lot of people now, which is why CGC has received an influx of business. There may not be many better grading options, but that doesn’t make these business practices any better.
Back in the late 2000’s you would get wrecked if your phone bill went over your alloted minutes in your plan, or you’d get wrecked if your phone got damaged and you were stuck in a 2 year plan, or you’d get wrecked if your data went over because you accidentally disconnected from your wifi without realizing and were still watching some youtube videos online or you’d get wrecked for your phone “roaming” in a zone out of your area.
Thankfully companies like Tmobile came around and broke up these awful business practices, but you would still see people defending this shit as acceptable. This is just something we have to deal with when there isn’t a whole lot of competition. Any time, in any market, there is a lack of good competition, business practices are poor, service is poor, and people are preyed upon. Do you NEED to get your cards graded? Nope. But you didn’t need a cell phone either.
I wouldn’t have much of an issue with the upcharges if you actually received the service you were upcharged for. The submission level doesn’t change when you get upcharged, right? Like if I were to submit it in bulk, but it got upcharged to regular, would I still get the bulk/value grading time instead of the regular?
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chrispy:
If you are grading cards to flip, then you can pass the bill onto the buyer. But if you are grading for your personal collection and are agreeing to upgrade fees/terms based on an articulated grading wait-time of 3 months, only to receive your card 1+ year down the road, then my opinion is that you should be upcharged based on whatever the card was valued at when that 3-month time limit expired, not what it’s value is when they finally get around to grading.
Collectors that are having to injest unpredictable upcharges on cards they never wanted to sell, are now feeling forced into a position where they NEED to sell part of their collection. It really does feel like extortion. PSA is a liability to a lot of people now, which is why CGC has received an influx of business. There may not be many better grading options, but that doesn’t make these business practices any better.
Back in the late 2000’s you would get wrecked if your phone bill went over your alloted minutes in your plan, or you’d get wrecked if your phone got damaged and you were stuck in a 2 year plan, or you’d get wrecked if your data went over because you accidentally disconnected from your wifi without realizing and were still watching some youtube videos online or you’d get wrecked for your phone “roaming” in a zone out of your area.
Thankfully companies like Tmobile came around and broke up these awful business practices, but you would still see people defending this shit as acceptable. This is just something we have to deal with when there isn’t a whole lot of competition. Any time, in any market, there is a lack of good competition, business practices are poor, service is poor, and people are preyed upon. Do you NEED to get your cards graded? Nope. But you didn’t need a cell phone either.
I wouldn’t have much of an issue with the upcharges if you actually received the service you were upcharged for. The submission level doesn’t change when you get upcharged, right? Like if I were to submit it in bulk, but it got upcharged to regular, would I still get the bulk/value grading time instead of the regular?
The service level stays the same. The reason probably being you don’t know if you are getting upcharged until after the grading step and I think that majority of the time waiting for your submission is before QA checks. It would be impossible for them to put your upcharged cards into a higher service level because they themselves don’t know if it is or not until after grading and they cant rush your entire order based on certain cards that got upcharged.
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