# PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard **URL:** \ **Category:** Market\ **Created:** [November 11, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611 "2017-11-11T18:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pichael25](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pichael25/32/533_2.png) [@pichael25](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pichael25)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/1 "2017-11-11T18:20:05Z")
What are your guys thoughts on the astronomical jumps in Shadowless psa prices lately? Psa 10 just sold for over $16,000. ---
**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/2 "2017-11-11T18:27:08Z")
> [@pichael25](#): > > What are your guys thoughts on the astronomical jumps in Shadowless psa prices lately? Psa 10 just sold for over $16,000. Holy sh1t. šŸ˜® Thatā€™s almost what Gary paid for his Pristine. lol Which one of you guys bought this? ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/3 "2017-11-11T18:27:22Z")
No thoughts, lol I called it a month ago when someone was asking for PSA 10 Shadowless prices. Predicted $15k if listed on eBay šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/4 "2017-11-11T18:30:45Z")
> [@swolepoke](#): > > No thoughts, lol I called it a month ago when someone was asking for PSA 10 Shadowless prices. > > Predicted $15k if listed on eBay šŸ˜‰ I must admit I didnā€™t believe you back then. Good call! I thought the price would stay flat at about 11-12k for the next year or so. ---
**Author:** ![swolepoke](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/swolepoke/32/26930_2.png) [@swolepoke](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/swolepoke)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/5 "2017-11-11T18:34:42Z")
Based of the winning bids feedback number, I know who won itā€¦ Theyā€™re a member here šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![hypernova](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/hypernova/32/68957_2.png) [@hypernova](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/hypernova)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/6 "2017-11-11T19:00:19Z")
Who wants to predict when the value of the PSA 10 shadowless exceeds the value of the PSA 10 1st Ed.? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/7 "2017-11-11T19:09:53Z")
![](https://www.elitefourum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/eaf351ffa0cd8d85cad5bdee41d5599c93ad78be.png) Some may have called me crazy. Not crazy enough, it seems! ---
**Author:** ![geg89](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/geg89/32/244_2.png) [@geg89](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/geg89)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/8 "2017-11-11T21:06:21Z")
Yea, thatā€™s what it sold for. ---
**Author:** ![nysyr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nysyr/32/26269_2.png) [@nysyr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nysyr)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/9 "2017-11-11T21:13:21Z")
Well at any rate there was 4 people willing to pay more than the last one. ---
**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/10 "2017-11-11T21:25:21Z")
Meanwhile, poor Venusaur sold for $1009 and another one slightly off centered will most likely end sub $1k by Monday. šŸ˜­ ---
**Author:** ![raichuforyou](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/raichuforyou/32/265_2.png) [@raichuforyou](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/raichuforyou)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/11 "2017-11-11T22:29:11Z")
My only thought is ā€œWhat took the market so long to catch up?ā€ ---
**Author:** ![missingno](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/missingno/32/434_2.png) [@missingno](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/missingno)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/12 "2017-11-11T23:33:02Z")
> [@raichuforyou](#): > > My only thought is ā€œWhat took the market so long to catch up?ā€ They hadnā€™t been on e4, or played Pokemon GošŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![pokemonsyndicate](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pokemonsyndicate/32/462_2.png) [@pokemonsyndicate](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pokemonsyndicate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/13 "2017-11-12T00:05:15Z")
yeah i shall see a gem mint 10 in my posession soon muhahahaha. Venusaur was 500 for a long time. now its 1,000ā€¦ but yeah that is extremely low guys. there is a hole there. and it aint gonna last long. ---
**Author:** ![nanger9](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nanger9/32/244_2.png) [@nanger9](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nanger9)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/14 "2017-11-12T01:37:11Z")
Hey guys, what do you think this does to the price of confirmed shadowless booster boxes? ---
**Author:** ![1by1collector](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/1by1collector/32/206241_2.png) [@1by1collector](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/1by1collector)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/15 "2017-11-12T01:41:46Z")
> [@pichael25](#): > > What are your guys thoughts on the astronomical jumps in Shadowless psa prices lately? Psa 10 just sold for over $16,000. Holy mackerel. 1st ed base zard psa 8 should he hitting 10k considering that (no bias) ---
**Author:** ![nanger9](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nanger9/32/244_2.png) [@nanger9](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nanger9)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/16 "2017-11-12T02:01:53Z")
Considering a PSA 10 1st ed Charizard goes for $16-18k and psa 9 1st ed Zard goes for $4,500-6,000 or roughly 30% of the price of a psa 10, shouldnā€™t a shadowless psa 9 go for roughly the same percentage of a shadowless psa 10? ---
**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/17 "2017-11-12T02:10:29Z")
> [@nanger9](#): > > Considering a PSA 10 1st ed Charizard goes for $16-18k and psa 9 1st ed Zard goes for $4,500-6,000 or roughly 30% of the price of a psa 10, shouldnā€™t a shadowless psa 9 go for roughly the same percentage of a shadowless psa 10? No. Are they slightly underpriced? Thatā€™s up for debatingā€¦ Itā€™s also important to check the pop reports. On Shadowless itā€™s about 10 to 1 PSA 9-10 ratio, while 1st Ed is 5 to 1 or so. Shadowless 10s are super scarce. Thereā€™s just none available so they receive a high price at auction. The 9s just got a big increase as well, $1500-1600 seems to be what the market is willing to pay tbh and I think itā€™s a fair price. I donā€™t expect another push just because the 10 sold for that much. Maybe $2000 in a little while. šŸ˜Š ---
**Author:** ![nanger9](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nanger9/32/244_2.png) [@nanger9](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nanger9)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/18 "2017-11-12T04:54:24Z")
Do you think the psa 10 shadowless zard high sale price will affect shadowless booster box prices? ---
**Author:** ![xgav1337x](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/xgav1337x/32/19609_2.png) [@xgav1337x](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/xgav1337x)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/19 "2017-11-12T05:52:16Z")
> [@hypernova](#): > > Who wants to predict when the value of the PSA 10 shadowless exceeds the value of the PSA 10 1st Ed.? šŸ˜Š 1st edition will always beat shadowless šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![acebren](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/acebren/32/400_2.png) [@acebren](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/acebren)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-shadowless-charizard/18611/20 "2017-11-12T06:39:38Z")
> [@nanger9](#): > > Do you think the psa 10 shadowless zard high sale price will affect shadowless booster box prices? If you can find one lol