# Pristine Price Check

**URL:** <https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978>\
**Category:** Market\
**Created:** [March 26, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978 "2019-03-26T20:42:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/1 "2019-03-26T20:42:25Z")

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What should a BGS 10 (9.5 corners) English 1st Ed Shining Charizard sell for?  
Thanks all…

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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/2 "2019-03-26T23:25:29Z")

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Anybody have an educated opinion?

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**Author:** ![charizandrew](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizandrew/32/873_2.png) [@charizandrew](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizandrew)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/3 "2019-03-26T23:29:51Z")

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You would know as well as anyone, right?

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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/4 "2019-03-26T23:35:59Z")

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> [@charizandrew](#):
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> You would know as well as anyone, right?

With most things yes but this is a OOAK of a very valuable card so only my opinion isn’t good enough for me.

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/5 "2019-03-27T00:17:53Z")

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Gary are you just bragging and trolling now 😂

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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/6 "2019-03-27T00:26:33Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> Gary are you just bragging and trolling now 😂

Bragging about what?

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**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/7 "2019-03-27T00:33:27Z")

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> [@KingPokemon](#):
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> > [@kpod](#):
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> > Gary are you just bragging and trolling now 😂
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> Bragging about what?

About how much your card is worth

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**Author:** ![chok](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/chok/32/620_2.png) [@chok](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/chok)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/8 "2019-03-27T00:34:13Z")

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3-5 times the PSA 10 value for charizards.

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**Author:** ![jcincy101](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jcincy101/32/837_2.png) [@jcincy101](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jcincy101)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/9 "2019-03-27T00:37:08Z")

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> [@chok](#):
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> 3-5 times the PSA 10 value for charizards.

No way. $6,000 - $10,000? Lol

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**Author:** ![chok](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/chok/32/620_2.png) [@chok](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/chok)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/10 "2019-03-27T00:41:39Z")

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> [@jcincy101](#):
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> > [@chok](#):
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> > 3-5 times the PSA 10 value for charizards.
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> No way. $6,000 - $10,000? Lol

it’s what Gary said, an educated opinion. The BGS 10 1st base sold for 55k when the PSA 10 was $20k (2.75x). The BGS 10 1st Ed dark Charizard sold for $2500 when its PSA 10 was $500. I sold my BGS 10 ex Dragon Charizard for $1200 when its PSA 10 was $350 (3.5x). Gary would be the best person to estimate but everyone has their own and mine is 3-5x PSA 10 value.

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**Author:** ![sherotcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/sherotcg/32/40791_2.png) [@sherotcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/sherotcg)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/11 "2019-03-27T00:41:41Z")

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I think i saw a pristine 1st shining zard on insta this week with a top offer of 8k. Hope this helps

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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/12 "2019-03-27T00:42:24Z")

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> [@kpod](#):
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> > [@KingPokemon](#):
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> > Bragging about what?
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> About how much your card is worth

I don’t own the card though?

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**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/13 "2019-03-27T00:49:51Z")

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Another aspect to consider when comparing to the 1st ed Base BGS 10 copy, the shining is a much easier card to grade  
1st ed base: 120 PSA 10, 604 PSA9  
16.5% success rate

1st ed shining: 178 PSA 10, 157 PSA 953.1% success rate  
There’s probably a few other BGS 10 candidates out there, I would be more conservative about how to value this card, personally.

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**Author:** ![cinnaminhbun](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cinnaminhbun/32/780_2.png) [@cinnaminhbun](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cinnaminhbun)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/14 "2019-03-27T00:53:52Z")

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I’d ballpark it around $5,000-6,000. It’s not an easy grade in a BGS 10 and I doubt anyone is investing in hoarding dozens PSA 10s to try and crossgrade (especially for only a 2-3x multiplier on a single card if anything).

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**Author:** ![jcincy101](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jcincy101/32/837_2.png) [@jcincy101](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jcincy101)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/15 "2019-03-27T00:56:55Z")

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Maybe I’m wrong. I guess I’ve seen crazier. I would never pay that much for a BGS card just buy a PSA 10.

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**Author:** ![charizandrew](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizandrew/32/873_2.png) [@charizandrew](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/charizandrew)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/16 "2019-03-27T02:02:58Z")

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I would have estimated $4k. My estimate may be low because PSA 10 is already the top of the mountain for me and I don’t really see excessive value in BGS 10 cards outside 1st edition base Charizard.

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**Author:** ![KingPokemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kingpokemon/32/283_2.png) [@KingPokemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KingPokemon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/17 "2019-03-27T02:42:58Z")

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> [@charizandrew](#):
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> I would have estimated $4k. My estimate may be low because PSA 10 is already the top of the mountain for me and I don’t really see excessive value in BGS 10 cards outside 1st edition base Charizard.

Yeah, it’s hard to compare between BGS 10 and PSA 10 on English cards because there’s so few BGS Pristines. All would earn a big premium over PSA 10s though, just hard to show examples of.

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**Author:** ![mjisaacs](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mjisaacs/32/978_2.png) [@mjisaacs](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mjisaacs)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/18 "2019-03-27T04:27:01Z")

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I don’t want to say exactly where I stand in this however $6,000-10,000 sounds absolutely reasonable to me. If I had the cash on hand I would totally buy it at that price. That’s just me though and I personally collect BGS 10s so that puts a different spin on things…

Mjisaacs

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**Author:** ![budget](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/budget/32/610_2.png) [@budget](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/budget)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/19 "2019-03-27T07:23:05Z")

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Maybe $6k if it had to go to auction. I don’t feel like there’s enough interest for it to hit 5 figures.

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**Author:** ![jakew1992](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jakew1992/32/762_2.png) [@jakew1992](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jakew1992)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/pristine-price-check/22978/20 "2019-03-27T08:25:24Z")

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I’d like to say it would reach $5k 👌

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