I have reached out to the owner of those sheets to see if they’re willing to provide scans 
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The Illustrator image here also has the same dot pattern as the No.1 Trainer. It also shows a sliver of the signature 
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Technically how do we know the signature is authentic? It’s possible that one of the middleman faked the signature on the 2024 trophy sheets.
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To me these feel different than the other sheets mentioned above. These seemingly (at least the Fan Clubs) are printed on scrap card stock and were for the most part shown by Akabane on his old instagram account, whereas the the others are a recent discovery…
With the limited information we have at this point these feel to me more like someone having fun in the factory, or something like Match prints
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Idk why people want to keep protecting Akabane. None of this could have happened without them. If you have to jump through hoops to make them innocent then I think it’s very likely they are not
Some of the signatures on these fakes were witnessed and he’s in pictures with them
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It is pretty safe to assume at this point that every uncut anything is fake until proven otherwise.
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I mean buy a magnifying glass before spending 1 million, they are worth like 2 usd it’s not rocket science people!!! I’m sure they have a ton of quality issues as well not just this 2024 metadata on them
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@GhezziTCG these look very similar to the Magic&Wizards forgeries CGC graded, both high end trophies never seen before, mint condition, uncut, no holo…
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Really great work @HumanForScale. Appreciate the uncovering and sharing of information. Kudos!
Cheers!
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Good Job!
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The uncut shining Gyarados is probably also fake
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They could test the lithography standards on a control for the period or on a real version to see. But im sure theyre forgeries personally. Im glad people are starting to see what cgc really is so that we can get more attention on their inaction on the magic and wizards forgeries.
Its the same malfeasance. They didnt care. Trusted an interested party. Wrote a bunch of bogus articles. Used XRF testing which has no place in TCG authentication. And then ignored everyone who said anything.
Its not me its them. Cultural problem in their company as evidenced by their 10 million dollar defamation loss.
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Curious about these too now.
The snaps could definitely have been printed in 2024 as well.
With Akabane behind it, of course no one would question the legitimacy. Who would have thought someone so heavily involved in the TCG would go rouge and do this…
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Akabane went against Japanese culture of being a part of the company for life. TPC and him were not on good terms (allegedly). At this point I would doubt anything involved with him. Xiao, and the middle men
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@HumanForScale got a closer look at scans of these and mentioned they looked good earlier on discord, im sure he’ll make a follow up post here at some point.
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The owner of the uncut sheets was kind enough to send me scans. While they’re not the highest resolution, they do confirm that they were all printed on offset printers like real Pokemon cards.
Therefore they also have no dot matrix to confirm age, but they do have rosette patterns that are indicative of real Pokemon cards.
The black text layer is also crisp and clearly a separate vector layer from the rest of the raster layer of the card, meaning it was printed off a digital file directly onto the paper instead of being photocopied in some way
All sheets have similar qualities, including the Shining Magikarp and Gyarados with fanclub embossed treatments
The Shining sheet has the old card back as well (though misaligned) and everything looks good there
The only way this sheet would be “fake” is if someone had the original digital files for this and printed it out on an offset printing press. While that is not impossible, at that point it’s less of a “fake” and more of an unauthorized reprint.
I also suspect if someone had access to the original digital print files for the cards on these sheets, they would’ve printed out more of the very coveted Snap Pikachu. There are multiple buyers who would pay a lot for that card and it isn’t holo, making it fairly straightforward to print. However we have only seen one sell publicly.
One last check would require both a real snap card, the sheet, and a microscope. Then you could check the specific rosette patterns at a high resolution and see if they match.
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That’s great news for the owner of those sheets!
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In your second scenario where they had the files and an offset printer it would still be “fake” no?
Unless the ultra high quality offset mtg fakes would be considered unauthorized reprints. Those are printed on offset printers, and have a separate black print layer passes as well
You are much more knowledgeable than me, so it’s a genuine question.
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Correct, it would be a “fake” that is basically materially identical to the original. The only way to tell the difference would be to examine rosettes under high magnification (unless their printer had the same pattern as the original).
If a card was printed with the original file onto the same cardstock from the time period with the same printing machines, the only think that makes it “fake” is the person / operator who printed it. The card would be identical to a “real” card that was originally awarded.
I would say the MTG fakes are still fake because they’re not using original print files, they’re using re-constructions from scans and another vector layer for typography + set symbol. Unfortunately for Wizards their MTG font has been leaked for like 20 years so it’s not too hard.
It’s really semantics at that point, but also highlights how dangerous it is if those original print files get into the wrong hands.
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