# New PSA Case Revealed **URL:** \ **Category:** Grading\ **Tags:** news, psa, slab\ **Created:** [May 14, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136 "2024-05-14T18:15:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/21 "2024-05-14T18:59:48Z")
> [@eeveeteam](#): > > In an interview 9 months ago, Nat Turner said the new cases will cut down on scratching the card inside. People think graded slabs protect cards. But they are assuming the plastic is 100% smooth, when it’s not, it has valleys and bumps when looking at microscopic level This is confusing to me. The card doesn’t touch the surface of the slab - only the edges are in contact with the plastic. So is this referring to microscopic edge wear? This fact is verifiable by their patents filed decades ago. > [@New CGC prices released](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-cgc-prices-released/42438/143): > > That is not true. You can read the patent [here](https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/b3/d4/05/67637310785538/US20030018894A1.pdf) and find that they state that the card is not touching either inner surface. In the context of a baseball card, the item recesses 22 might be provided with peripheral ridges 26 which define a rectangular area into which an object, having the dimensions of a sports memorabilia card, would be inserted. The peripheral ridges 26 would then function to retain the card against lateral movement even when the memorabilia product is manipulated and/or shak… ---
**Author:** ![JoshsOddCollection](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joshsoddcollection/32/1914_2.png) [@JoshsOddCollection](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/JoshsOddCollection)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/22 "2024-05-14T19:03:44Z")
“No Mylar, no sleeve, no movement”… Does that mean they’re completely getting rid of the inner sleeve for cards that are too small? The vast majority of slabs don’t have a sleeve anyway so I’m curious what they’re talking about here. I also don’t see how a change in plastic would remove the need for an inner sleeve when the card is too small. ---
**Author:** ![eeveeteam](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eeveeteam/32/2219_2.png) [@eeveeteam](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eeveeteam)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/23 "2024-05-14T19:05:41Z")
Ah, yeah I middle man for a middle man and I get PSA returns back through USPS, my mistake on that one. I can’t imagine going from 5 pounds to 6 pounds through Fedex or UPS is a significant price increase ---
**Author:** ![Frosty.Puppy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/frosty.puppy/32/234614_2.png) [@Frosty.Puppy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Frosty.Puppy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/24 "2024-05-14T19:06:05Z")
36:10 minute mark Nat Turner talks about this “we very quietly have rolled out a new slab” - 9 months ago. > **[Live Chat With Nat Turner CEO Of PSA Grading.](https://www.youtube.com/live/YhdsNErrZ_E?si=mFO6N90h0dVMSnwd)** > > Nat's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/natsturner\_cards/\*When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in... ---
**Author:** ![eeveeteam](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eeveeteam/32/2219_2.png) [@eeveeteam](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eeveeteam)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/25 "2024-05-14T19:07:19Z")
The card can’t just float in mid air in the slab, so either the front or back surface is in contact with the plastic. Atleast on the examples where the card can move up and down inside the slab and isn’t secured well ---
**Author:** ![JoshsOddCollection](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joshsoddcollection/32/1914_2.png) [@JoshsOddCollection](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/JoshsOddCollection)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/26 "2024-05-14T19:08:34Z")
Only the very edges of the card touch the plastic (best visualized in the patent itself) so the “face” of the card is barely touched at all. It’s a pretty genius design. ---
**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/27 "2024-05-14T19:12:10Z")
Please read the conversation here. The card does not touch the front or back surfaces. The contact of 2-3 edges (soon to be 4) hold the card perfectly between the surfaces. > [@New CGC prices released](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-cgc-prices-released/42438/143): > > That is not true. You can read the patent [here](https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/b3/d4/05/67637310785538/US20030018894A1.pdf) and find that they state that the card is not touching either inner surface. In the context of a baseball card, the item recesses 22 might be provided with peripheral ridges 26 which define a rectangular area into which an object, having the dimensions of a sports memorabilia card, would be inserted. The peripheral ridges 26 would then function to retain the card against lateral movement even when the memorabilia product is manipulated and/or shak… ---
**Author:** ![cpbog1](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cpbog1/32/335_2.png) [@cpbog1](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cpbog1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/28 "2024-05-14T19:15:18Z")
> [@smpratte](#): > > Ultra impermeable to heat, humidity, water, and UV light. Exciting times when we can finally take our PSA cards to go swimming! But in all seriousness, these are all much needed improvements to their slabs. The subtle differences will make an impact for the consumers. I vaguely recall a thread on E4 years ago discussing why PSA slabs were kept intentionally porous - was it to prevent the risk of encapsulation in a higher humidity environment? Or was that only a theory poised by a community member? cpbog1 ---
**Author:** ![tidaldreams](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tidaldreams/32/26292_2.png) [@tidaldreams](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/tidaldreams)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/29 "2024-05-14T19:24:35Z")
wonder if that slab i received a few weeks ago that was also about 20% heavier and made of a different material turned out to be real all along 🤔🤯 nah couldnt be 🤣 ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/9/e915514db1688208395dc03f69bd8e04cd8292ce.jpeg) ![IMG_7839](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/d/2/d23ee83d6f81a81a305e67ae317a5ccac85edb88.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Charizard1020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizard1020/32/252961_2.png) [@Charizard1020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Charizard1020)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/30 "2024-05-14T20:07:41Z")
👀 ---
**Author:** ![TheMarillFoundation](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/themarillfoundation/32/234604_2.png) [@TheMarillFoundation](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/TheMarillFoundation)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/31 "2024-05-14T20:29:34Z")
I wonder if the upgrade is comparable to CGCs slab clarity ---
**Author:** ![c0ll3ct0r](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/c0ll3ct0r/32/26306_2.png) [@c0ll3ct0r](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/c0ll3ct0r)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/32 "2024-05-14T21:22:35Z")
“Medical-grade,” presumably ISO 10993-certified plastic is an interesting thing to advertise, but I love the sound of heftier slabs. ---
**Author:** ![DarthEevee](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dartheevee/32/219955_2.png) [@DarthEevee](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/DarthEevee)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/33 "2024-05-14T21:26:46Z")
Unpopular opinion but the biggest upgrade of all would be to change the design ---
**Author:** ![stagecoach](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/stagecoach/32/2251_2.png) [@stagecoach](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/stagecoach)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/34 "2024-05-14T21:32:01Z")
Straight up, all my homies are obsessed with ISO 10993 certified plastic. They never shut up about it. They’re going to go nuts when they hear this! ---
**Author:** ![c0ll3ct0r](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/c0ll3ct0r/32/26306_2.png) [@c0ll3ct0r](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/c0ll3ct0r)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/35 "2024-05-14T21:36:38Z")
Shrapnel from cracking is now 110% cytotoxically safe, hallelujah. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rattlesnake/32/245396_2.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/36 "2024-05-14T22:03:22Z")
I hope the heavier case is not more difficult to crack open. Although it will take a long time before these have critical mass as a percentage of total slabs. ---
**Author:** ![quibble](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quibble/32/1788_2.png) [@quibble](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/quibble)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/37 "2024-05-14T22:07:11Z")
Finally, I can perform surgeries without worrying that my slabs aren’t medical grade! Have to wonder if the little moulded arrows that appeared on the top back left during the 7xxx cert slabs & have now disappeared around the 87xx certs, mark the transition to these newer slabs (if they’re already out there)? Here’s an 83xx cert on the left & 91xx cert on the right. Notice the little upward arrow & set of bars on the edge of the older slab version that’s now gone: ![IMG_20240514_225844568](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/91317d4d608a360ce228c4ca415b9d81367c3d0c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rainbowgym](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rainbowgym/32/1063_2.png) [@rainbowgym](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/rainbowgym)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/38 "2024-05-14T22:17:32Z")
Heavier?? So more shipping for international. And when shipping is more expensive there will also be more taxes to pay. Not needed from my point of view. ---
**Author:** ![gengarbrigade](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gengarbrigade/32/271700_2.png) [@gengarbrigade](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gengarbrigade)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/39 "2024-05-14T22:50:58Z")
> [@eeveeteam](#): > > The 20% weight increase changes very little in shipping cost. > For a 50 card submission: > > BEFORE: > 5 oz box > 1.5 oz per card x 50 = 75 oz > 5 pounds total > > AFTER: > 5 oz box > 1.8 oz per card x 50 = 90 oz > 6 pounds total > > So an increase of 1 pound of weight for a 50 card submission. If shipping Ground USPS, you are using volumetric box size instead of weight anyways, so no change in price for return shipping from PSA. Unless PSA uses trash companies like Fedex or UPS. > > For a single card shipment, the 1 oz bubble mailer and the new card weight is still under 4 oz, the lowest weight class for shipping first class bubble mailer anyways. > > So, in summary, this changes nothing or very little. Don’t be afraid. Probably less chance of the slab cracking during shipment, so that is worth the extra weight. See above ---
**Author:** ![rainbowgym](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/rainbowgym/32/1063_2.png) [@rainbowgym](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/rainbowgym)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136/40 "2024-05-14T22:53:08Z")
Read what I wrote above… **International** Shipping will be more expensive. Each POUND counts and adds up very fast. [Previous page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/new-psa-case-revealed/48136.md?page=3)