Wheres that thread about awesome serial numbers?
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fiery
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That label honestly looks dope. CGC take notes pls.
jyscal
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To be fair to them, the vast majority of the city of Milan looks exactly like that (if not worse) in terms of graffiti lol
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What are peopleās opinions on the Ace launch case with the logo being over the front and back of the card?
Iāve decided to hold off submitting until they change it.
Excited to submit some cards but they donāt have enough examples of the different labels and cases yet so feel like I could be disappointed if I submit loads of nice cards then find out I have OCD from the logo being over the card
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That is not cool at all with the Ace logo on the bottom of the case covering part of the card. I am guessing after a month they will change the case.
ferny
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Yeah Iām not a fan, but I submitted a few cards anyway, Iām hopeful that Ace Grading becomes a success and Iām excited to see how they handle things and what the slab looks like in person.
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kharey
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I personally donāt like it. I live in the US, so I wasnāt going to grade through them anyways, but anything obscuring the view of a card is a no-go for me.
I donāt think brand loyalty is a good thing at all and competition is beneficial to us consumers.
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Maybe they will listen to feedback and change the location.
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Iād agree with you if there was any brand loyalty or competition going on. The fact that people address Ace as an actual company and not a complete joke is testament to just how much people hate PSA and want a viable contender to rise up.
Making a case where the logo obscures parts of the card, and that after youāve gone on Twitter asking the public (Twitter public, that is) for suggestions on the case because you donāt have a clear vision yourself is hardly a step in the right direction.
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I just tried to give Ace a try but both services are closed alreadyā¦
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quibble
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Yeah, they hit capacity an hour or so after launchā¦apparently a couple of thousand submissions in that window.
Theyāll open both tiers back up as they complete existing subs on a rolling conveyor system, unless they get a glut and hit capacity again.
Iām honestly shocked people are submitting stuff to get graded before we know anything about their consistently, whether the cases will hold up, etc.
This is my conspiracy but my guess is they closed their submissions for publicity more so than they actually received that many customers. I donāt have proof for this claim of course, but Iām going off what I observed on their social media. There was not that much engagement outside of the initial announcement video. Unless thereās a handful of submitters sending in hundreds-to-thousands cards each, Idk I just really doubt it there is so much genuine demand for ace grading
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pfm
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Itās not that surprising to me. Thereās no alternative. PSA is effectively closed, the CGC takes months to register your package, does anyone even grade with BGS?
Itās even more compounded by fact that the big companies arenāt even a great option for UK citizens even when things are running normally.
The custom labels look great. And letās be honest, a huge motivation of grading is to frame a card nicely. The number on the label matters far more than the actual condition of the card so the grading consistency/quality is a low priority. We are also primarily talking about modern cards that are mint+ by default.
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I know youāve caveated this by saying this is a conspiracy theory but I want to counter with just how baseless this theory seems, I think itās unfair to have this idea gaining any traction.
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What social media is this that you observed? After reading your post I looked at the Instagram accounts for Ace, CGC, PSA and Beckett and was going to make a point about their proportionate engagement. However, I was shocked to see that Ace actually seem to consistently have more engagement social media engagement then the big 3, both in likes and comments. Clicking through the commenting accounts this appears to be genuine engagement from Pokemon fans, not bots pumping numbers.
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Based on the fact that Randolphās announcement video has 100,000 views and their average Instagram likes per post is around 2,500 I donāt think itās unreasonable to suggest that 1,000 of those people were interested enough to submit and try it out. Especially considering Randolphās platform and the complete lack of viable UK grading options. I think youād be surprised by how many people are unwilling to deal with international customs/shipping, even through a middle man. For many, especially small collectors, they may have considered this their first viable option to even grade.
It seems so ordinary given the circumstances that 1,000 people have decided to try it out by submitting 20 cards each on average. 20,000 cards on day 1 seems like a reasonable amount to close service if they really do want to keep up their promise of consistently hitting their turnaround time, at least reasonable enough that we donāt need to be pumping conspiracy theories!
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I based my conspiracy on all of their subsequent posts about Ace Grading outside of the initial announcement has seen relatively low engagement. I donāt think itās really fair to compare them to established players because theyāre the new kid and need to generate hype. But this is just arbitrary reasoning on my part, I agree.
I also agree with the previous post in this thread stating they seem directionless by constantly revising their product based on the whim of the public. I just donāt see the value proposition of this company other than itās tied to a YouTuber. So overall Iām highly skeptical of the demand for their service.
Iām not trying to be a hater though, if they are truly succeeding more power to them.
Seems kind of obvious, but you canāt know these things without people submitting cards. The pioneers will kick the tyres and will likely find something to complain about. CGC went through the same teething stage too and people were saying no one would use them either - time will tell.
Iām pretty sure they just donāt want to receive more cards/packages than they can handle. They are a tiny startup. I know I would be worried about accepting more submissions than being able to process and store. They also need to be able to test their internal processes at smaller scale.
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Yeah good points all around. I think you all raised some strong reasons they could indeed be serving a market and find success
