I concur with Charizard ex FRLG. Has awesome art, ultra rare, and was the most wanted card of its day. I remember opening booster after booster hoping for it - and that set had a ton of ex’s so the pull rate was quite low. Also correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it the first card with a 200 damage attack? IMO PSA 10 ex’s are all generally undervalued considering how few were produced.
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The most underrated Charizard is Blastoise!
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Haha. I would have figured you’d say rayquaza lol.
haha I don’t mind a good discussion 
everyone is entitled to their own opinion but its fun to discuss eachothers.
For the base set zards, the target audience was indeed the reason I picked those. everyone wants that “Charizard card from back in the days”
Even ex Firered/Leafgreen feels undervalued. Such a nice set
I think Charizard ex and firered/leafgreen haven’t hit that critical nostalgia point yet. Alternatively they’re just not remembered that fondly being released in the “dark ages” of Pokémon.
Definitely room for future growth.
It’s healthy discussion lol
I don’t think it deserves to be considered “undervalued”. I think given how easy it is to attain relative to other WotC Zards, size of the graded population, the size of base unlimited’s print run and the fact that so many people are aware it exists mean that it’s not really undervalued.
It’s right where it needs to be in April 2018.
Two things. You omitted how many people want it that don’t already own one (millions worldwide)
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Privately I haven’t sold one for under 300.00 in 6 months as well as getting 400.00 average trade value. Ofcourse most of my customers know I don’t grade cards that I don’t think have a chance to be 10s so that may have some extra value to them.
Nothing’s 100% but those indications are normally a good sign in regards to future value.
You can apply that logic to almost any WotC Pokemon card though. Not to the same extent as base Zard in every scenario but I’m pretty sure most people on efour take that as a given? Didn’t think it was necessary to bring up.
The card will definitely rise, so will many others but it will happen gradually. Unless there’s some indication of PSA 9 unlimited Charizard jumping to $500 in the next 12 months that I’m missing, I don’t think the card is really undervalued. It’s like Disney, nobody expect’s Disney’s share price to double out of nowhere, just keep rising at a similar rate to which it has been recently. When I use the word “undervalued” I think drastic price changes.
Well they sell on ebay for 200-250 depending on the day. What you sell yours for now is your prerogative but you’re an outlier, Gary. You’re probably the best known Pokemon collector in the world due to Pawn Stars with an inventory nobody else can match so you have the luxury of charging premiums to people only Scott and a handful of other collectors would be aware of or have access to.
Like I said in my earlier post, what different people consider undervalued is subjective and we end up arguing semantics.
A card doesn’t have to double in price to have been deemed undervalued. Plus, we weren’t asked what the most undervalued item in the Pokémon world is…just Charizard’s. If on New Year’s Day 2020 Pokemon’s popularity and its collectible interest has continued to grow you may be shocked at the Base set Charizard’s values in relation to all Pokémon collectibles.
To put it in perspective, hockey collectors love Wayne Gretzky cards from the past nearly 40 years. Some love his auto cards from the last decade. Some go after his jersey or stick cards especially with autos. 1/1s make them giddy. Multi signed cards with his sig included are to die for by some. BUT ALL want his true rookie…the 1979 o-pee-chee and that card has gone up disproportionately to all other hockey collectibles. Charizard is Gretzky. The English base set is his true ‘rookie card’. I bet on that possibility many years ago though I like to call it an educated guess. I saw the way kids were affected by it. It was like me, peering through the gate trying to catch a glimpse of Sandy Koufax entering the clubhouse. My son staring at the fire coming out of charizards mouth as he drifted off to sleep…and not losing his grip on it till morning.
As James Earl Jones said in Field of Dreams, “They will come. They will most certainly come.”
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That makes perfect sense for 1st and Shadowless.
But unlimited 9 is a different beast.
One day when the PSA 10s hit 4-5k consistently we will probably see 9s shy of 1k…
But shadowless and 1st will be going to the moon by then.
Actually, I meant PSA 9 Unl more so than the others. The others will be fine too.
I guess it’s probably good to have you tout that info though. The more that believe you the better for the rest of us;)
I have a few unl 9s as well but they just fell into my lap, not really cards I go after. The hype helps me too but at the same time… in 8 months the pop has gone up by 700 to the point where there’s a pop of 3116. Will we be hitting 4K by the end of the year? Such a high population makes me want to stay away from them.
That’s not including BGS 9s or 9.5s either.
Ironically… you keep selling yours. Why not just hold all the base Zards?
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Wouldn’t be surprised if 1,000 of the 3,116 is crack and re-send 
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because now we had a grading craze, still the market is just soaking all those charizards into collections.
I just searched on Ebay for: “charizard base psa 9” and only found 9 active listings (which sell only the charizard base PSA 9 seperately)
With pop over 3k, that’s insane.
We will come to a point where there will just be a structural deficit in supply. Because supply should be HUGE with so many new cards graded and price SHOULD have went down. Instead, prices went up with huge numbers graded, and supply on Ebay is relatively low in comparison to population. When we reach a point where raw cards are harder to find (which I think we already are hitting) and supply degrades even more… wel just watch prices soar
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Cause I’m getting high market and have almost 100 of them lol.
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I agree with Dark Charizard and Blaine’s Charizard. However, out of the the more current releases I think STAFF Charizard was one people slept on in the beginning. I know that they are now high on eBay, especially PSA 10s, but I feel like with this one a lot of people didn’t see the ingredients coming… Classic+Charizard+ Prelease stamp/ Staff stamp(limited) = HIGHLY WANTED. I remember buying them as quickly as they were released and remember not paying more than $100ish for it for staff I might have payed around $200ish.
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Will the PSA 10 Charizard ex from FRLG that we all deemed undervalued finally rise to the top with its other ultra rare counterparts?
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Budget and Gary both have valid points. Gary is right that old and new collector alike is going to want at least ONE base Charizard. If they can afford it, they’ll want a shadowless and a 1st as well, but most people start with an unlimited (unless they were old enough to get lucky and start with a shadowless/1st ed).
If they can’t afford multiple base set charizards; they’ll prob just want a higher graded unlimited. That said, I don’t think grade pops increasing over time will somehow hinder cost growth because for every 1000 extra psa 10s you have over the next 10 years; there will be WAY MORE collectors out there with deeper wallets. There are so many young collectors continuing to grow with the hobby. I never even realized the extent of it but as much as we have a laugh at guys like leonhart for being over the top, or listedleaf with his goofball opening videos; there’s thousands of kids out there that will soon have jobs and careers and at least a 10th of them will continue with the hobby as they mature. Even that small fraction adds a demand that won’t be met easily by a couple extra thousand graded cards rotating into the population. I’m in 6 different pokemon discords right now, only e4’s has an established collector demographic. The rest is 12-18 years olds trading new product around and hoping to get their hands on some older jungle/fossil/base cards.
Also like someone else said, those psa 9 populations are inflated, at least to SOME degree, by the amount of crack regrades. How many psa9’s do we see actually for sale today? It really isn’t THAT high. My opinion is that it’s gonna tighten up over the next few years even with more and more cards being sent in for grading. I guess a lot of this is just pure speculation, and some of you have way more historic experience to look back on and weigh in with, but at least everyone can agree that there’s room for marginal growth with all charizards of all grades. I think the main point of this post was to see which charizards have the MOST room for growth. To me, from what I read, that seems to be the darks and blaines (1st ed).
I consider myself a new collector and I don’t even own any Shadowless / 1st ed. I just don’t see any justifiable reason to own them. I see em as errors/mis prints. Unlimitedd is good enough it’s more popular than 1st ed / Shadowless in the UK anyway.
I still can’t believe what they did to stormfront chadizard. That’s not an upgrade like they did with base>unlimited. SF zard is the Ugliest shit ever.
I forgot, yep, leafy zard is also undervalued. Add that to the list. I think gold zards are still #1
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Charizard EX FRLG auctioned at $650.