If cgc have any sense at all they will destroy them. They’d be leaving fakes in the market otherwise.
If you send a fake Rolex to be serviced by Rolex they destroy it, they don’t send it back.
If cgc have any sense at all they will destroy them. They’d be leaving fakes in the market otherwise.
If you send a fake Rolex to be serviced by Rolex they destroy it, they don’t send it back.
Yes, they will be desired but only if CGC graded. Problem is that (in most of the cases) returning them to CGC will get you the best money.
After CGC refunds them, they are property of CGC.
Instead of destroying, CGC may keep them as evidence for possible legal cases. Also, if CGC refunds some of the ones that currently cannot be proven fake, would make sense for them to keep them in case they can later be proven authentic.
Edit: if an insurance company is involved with the refunds, the cards likely becomes property of the insurance company. Which may dispose them if no longer needed for legal reasons.
No
I’m slightly sad to send mine back, but I also didn’t hesitate to ship them out yesterday. They do have their own unique historical significance now. But there still will be hundreds of privately sourced copies presumably that don’t qualify for any refund via CGC floating around on the market, if I truly wanted a copy back.
You can always print your own ![]()
Ironically, the metadata that proves the cards are fake also serves as a mechanism for “authenticating” the fakes as belonging to the group of Prototypes around which this history-making scandal revolves. In a messed-up kinda way one might argue that actually gives them value…
I think it’s less about having the card, and more a piece of the biggest pokemon scandal of all time in the cgc slab.
The card inside has no real value to me, but the slab is now one of the most memorable items I’ve ever had in Pokemon because of this thread and the drama involved
In the situation with your cards I wouldn’t hesitate for a second, and for many others.
My fake Clefairy was from Zack’s set and was 2k after credit card fees and shipping. I’d be happy to get that back but at the same time, but at the same time it’s not that crazy an amount compared to the extreme craziness of the scandal and the lies from Akabane
I doubt anyone wants this as memorabilia any more than their money back. Like you said, the card has no real value
It’s quite poetic that pfm (& co) lost out on owning a piece of TCG history but instead actually created TCG history in the process.
Bittersweet Symphony starts playing
I dunno, the akabane signature ones probably have a premium to keep.
The fake graded cards are not worth any more than the printer paper, cardstock, printer ink, sharpie marker ink, and the slab plastic comined.
About $3.50 tops
I’m not rich enough where I’d consider 2k USD “not that crazy of an amount” just so I could own a piece of criminal memorabilia.
Power to the people who are wealthy enough to do this but there’s so many other cards I’d rather have in my collection than something that 99.7% of the collector base deems worthless.
I’m strongly debating whether to keep a couple.
Keeping the one you first tested on would be meaningful ![]()
That’s how you personally value it, but we haven’t seen any copies go for sale since the scandal so it’s unknown how the market values them at this point. Another data point, I personally am still debating whether to send one of mine in that I paid 5K for.
I am trying to understand keeping a card that you paid $5k for that is confirmed to be printed by scammers, when a full refund is being offered? Not attacking your view point, genuinely trying to understand the thought process behind keeping a card like that. So many great options for real cards out there at $5k.
I feel this is where I am. No amount of money can ever buy this memory back haha
For people asking how could it even be considered, I’d say that collecting is its own deep and personal thing that sometimes can’t be explained.
The main reason I would send it in is more for the principle of cgcs mistake
CGC should give you some kind of momento for all the time you put into this project
As some others who own them are saying, there’s a weird attachment to it based on the experience and the memory (albeit not an overly positive one). That’s for people who purchased one and went through this whole process firsthand. I have already sent 2 of mine in and will likely send in the 3rd, but it isn’t as straightforward a decision as I was expecting.
Then it’s also possible people will still value an item that came from/created by Akabane and represents the very first prototypes of Pokemon cards, even though they were printed and mounted at a later date. Not to mention that they also now represent a large and historic scandal.