This was a reholdered blue label one from the original batch that also contained the legitimate starters. After taking a look at the scans from the owner I think it’s also likely legit, but his scanner was blurry so we’re seeing if we can get a clearer one.
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I thought about this or trying to see if there were any artifacts in the art that could trace it to a recent source on the internet.
I think the inaccurate colours were specific to the US side because the primary source for them was an undersaturated scan.
It’s also not unreasonable that a person who was involved in the early card layout design could have access to the original files of the Sugimori watercolours.
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Yeah its assumed that the inaccurate colors came from the US Nintendo Power RB Guidebook(from Lewtwo)
I can definitely see someone with a hand in this having access to original files, but if that is the case why are some of the betas saturated versions instead of the real colors from the files? They use the accurate colors in gym so it seems odd these would be made with the wrong colors before gym, but just so happen to line up with the saturated players guide versions. If any of the HQ betas use the saturated versions that doesn’t definitively prove them as fake, but its definitely something to be suspicious of.
I may just be missing the piece that makes that add up so let me know if that’s the case.
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So with Sean and xiao having confirmed fake sheets with a 2024 print code, is it safe to assume the cgc 10 illustrator xiao is likely fake and graded by cgc? He has what? 3 or 4 illustrators ? Text
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I really do hope with the scale of this controversy law enforcement comes in and holds the bad actors accountable. Seems to always be connections to the same players
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So is this scanned auto that CGC also authenticated? Or they signed a print sheet which was cut out and glued. Wild either way.
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I know this does not prove anything but i find it funny how this copy that should be authentic has identical marks all over the card just like HQ betas
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damn that would be next level… fake printer cards is one thing but an illustrator 
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the notion of keeping the “real” printer papers for yourself and then grading and encapsulating photocopies to sell thru various auction houses sounds like next level fraud 
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I think it’s totally fine to understand why in the first place betas or deltas were created.
The problem is that we don’t know how much time creators spent to come up with different layouts, ideas or different concepts.
So trying to figure out what was possible to do in 3 months of work looks a bit hard and pointless.
Betas from what i can see have a more detailed and polished layout than the alphas. Beta presentation just adds the background then delta is the ultimated concept, in my opinion this is a linear evolution
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Did CGC even make a statement yet? Also, what is the best site to learn how to read the dot data? I have some on my card but no idea how to read where the dots start.
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I have not seen a delta or alpha presentation that didn’t have 2024 dots.
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This is a valid point. My theory is that the majority of these cards got printed from original files.
And probably Delta variants never saw light on paper? It’s just a speculation. But for sure till we dont see a legit one this is a valid theory
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The actual beta presentation cards seen in corocoro also use text that is more similar to the first iteration of alpha playtests and therefore don’t logically follow from delta and alpha presentation
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My opinion: The card was printed, signed, then cut and mounted, potentially making Akabane complicit in fraud. I think if we could get a high resolution scan and find the meta data, that would be most helpful.
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tiktok i was telling yall about. no clue what he is saying
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In my experience color saturation isnt a conclusive test of anything. It can be an indicator but is too variable to be conclusive of authenticity in either regard.
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You can submit this to the FBI anytime if youre affected. Fraud like this has been prosecuted by the FBI e.g. the PWCC trimming scandal.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I doubt its a smoking gun, but definitely a variable to consider.
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