# Many of the Pokemon playtest cards were likely printed in 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Articles\ **Tags:** prototype\ **Created:** [January 27, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421 "2025-01-27T01:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/950 "2025-01-30T01:16:06Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VOF-irRV4Ns/maxresdefault.jpg "We are refunding all $144,000 Pokemon Beta Playtest eBay Sales") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOF-irRV4Ns&t=244s) James is the šŸ for this!!! Also I could have got a free prototype card if I won a ZandG Auction last week?!?!?! I missed an opportunity ---
**Author:** ![smpratte](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/smpratte/32/79511_2.png) [@smpratte](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/smpratte)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/951 "2025-01-30T01:20:14Z")
For people trying to figure out a way their cards can somehow be real, I know this sucks, even for people who donā€™t own a prototype card, however, as it stands, assume everything is fake until proven otherwise. So far we have a handful of certified cards, and thousands at this point that are most likely fake. The remaining ā€œinconclusiveā€ cards are not proven to be real, and should only be assumed real if they are proven. ---
**Author:** ![mthursty](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mthursty/32/159700_2.png) [@mthursty](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mthursty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/952 "2025-01-30T01:22:45Z")
It would reeally suck if cgc started destroying cards (or their insurer) and they ended up destroying real ones. I wonder what the process will be for the cards after CGC accepts them. ---
**Author:** ![eeveeteam](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/eeveeteam/32/2219_2.png) [@eeveeteam](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/eeveeteam)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/953 "2025-01-30T01:23:54Z")
> [@triple](#): > > I could have got a free prototype card if I won a ZandG Auction last week It would have just been a piece of paper printed by a scammer. The likely scenario is CGC will refund Z&G for every slab he can return to CGC. James was proactive with the refunds and people owe it to him to send them back if this is the case Edit: just learned the card must be returned first then Z&G will refund and handle it from there. Still a class act ---
**Author:** ![billwill01](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/billwill01/32/107311_2.png) [@billwill01](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/billwill01)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/954 "2025-01-30T01:24:34Z")
I donā€™t know how many people it applies to, but my two cards were from the Rare Candy auctions. I have reached out and have not heard back, even with a generic response. So, they seem the least receptive and are ignoring the issue entirely at this point. I donā€™t believe that they are responsible, but I feel that it is a good practice to clarify what has occurred and that buyers should contact CGC. ---
**Author:** ![mthursty](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mthursty/32/159700_2.png) [@mthursty](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mthursty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/955 "2025-01-30T01:26:07Z")
> [@triple](#): > > Also I could have got a free prototype card if I won a ZandG Auction last week?!?!?! I missed an opportunity I assume ZandG wont refund if you dont plan to return the card šŸ˜› Hopefully @jcincy101 will be able to return the cards to cgc for the full value of the sale. If CGC is not offering the full value of sale, a Class action lawsuit seems quite possible. ---
**Author:** ![gottaketchumall](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gottaketchumall/32/161622_2.png) [@gottaketchumall](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gottaketchumall)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/956 "2025-01-30T01:26:29Z")
His wife clarified in the comments that the card must first be returned for the refund. (Naturally) ---
**Author:** ![triple](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/triple/32/286477_2.png) [@triple](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/triple)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/957 "2025-01-30T01:27:44Z")
ik i was memeing ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/958 "2025-01-30T01:30:01Z")
> [@triple](#): > > i was memeing ![images-1](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/6/2/62f1bfe78e420f80873eb82edc018f2f66df5100.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bigtechbill](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/bigtechbill/32/233865_2.png) [@bigtechbill](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/bigtechbill)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/959 "2025-01-30T01:41:30Z")
The world disappoints me daily ---
**Author:** ![GhezziTCG](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ghezzitcg/32/135812_2.png) [@GhezziTCG](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/GhezziTCG)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/960 "2025-01-30T01:42:10Z")
Which is what rhey should say. They didnt knowingly or willfully auction forgeries and removed them immediately when told they were. Its between the certifier and the owner. ---
**Author:** ![Lemon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lemon/32/1967_2.png) [@Lemon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Lemon)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/961 "2025-01-30T01:46:12Z")
They certainly have an opportunity to do right by their customers considering they advertised and pumped up these prototypes, but yes, according to their ToS they arenā€™t liable. As we see with Z&G, it is a choice. They made a choice. ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/962 "2025-01-30T01:52:46Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [The Giant Professional Grading Thread](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-giant-professional-grading-thread/30930/7664) ---
**Author:** ![zubat](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/zubat/32/154200_2.png) [@zubat](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/zubat)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/963 "2025-01-30T02:14:40Z")
Can anyone drop a hyperlink to the CGC pop report for these sets full disclosure Iā€™ve made no effort to find it ---
**Author:** ![Tapp](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/tapp/32/77737_2.png) [@Tapp](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Tapp)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/964 "2025-01-30T02:23:06Z")
[September Article](https://www.cgccards.com/news/article/13347/) [Alpha Playtest (Thick Lines)](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/alpha-playtest-thick-lines/13952/) [Alpha Presentation](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/alpha-presentation-full-color-w-type-symbols/25489/) [Alpha Prototype](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/alpha-prototype/23415/) [Beta Playtest (Thin Lines)](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/beta-playtest-thin-lines/24203/) [Beta Presentation](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/beta-presentation/23334/) [Delta Playtest](https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/tcg/pok%C3%A9mon/2/test-prints-oddities-other/692/delta-playtest-full-color-images/25274/) ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/965 "2025-01-30T03:23:23Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Elite Fourum Memes](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/elite-fourum-memes/13446/3678) ---
**Author:** ![traineramy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/traineramy/32/132565_2.png) [@traineramy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/traineramy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/966 "2025-01-30T03:23:04Z")
I fully understand how badly everyone wants a resolution (and deserve one quickly), but itā€™s been less than 3 days and expensive lawyers are involved. I donā€™t imagine if this happened at bgs or PSA or any place else, they would have a fully vetted statement and refunds available in 24 hours. Things take time when fraud is involved. ---
**Author:** ![fourthstartcg](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fourthstartcg/32/163893_2.png) [@fourthstartcg](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fourthstartcg)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/967 "2025-01-30T03:27:58Z")
Letā€™s try to keep this thread on-topic with discussion of the actual prototypes and the process underway for making consumers whole. We have a lot of threads dedicated to this so I get it can be difficult to figure out exactly where to post, so here is a handy guide! If you want to post memes, they can go in [Elite Fourum Memes](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/elite-fourum-memes/13446). If you want to discuss the wider implications of the scandal for grading, you can do so in [The Giant Professional Grading Thread](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-giant-professional-grading-thread/30930). Discussion of the trophy uncut sheets and other questionable uncut items from Akabane is in this thread: [Number 1 Trainer trophy printed on ā€œuncut sheetā€ appears to have been printed in 2024](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/number-1-trainer-trophy-printed-on-uncut-sheet-appears-to-have-been-printed-in-2024/52584). Discussion of a lawsuit against CGC is here: [Class action lawsuit against CGC for the prototype scandal](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/class-action-lawsuit-against-cgc-for-the-prototype-scandal/52636). Discussion of the effect of the scandal on CGCā€™s business is here: [Since the CGC playtest scandal, what does this mean for CGC Cards?](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/since-the-cgc-playtest-scandal-what-does-this-mean-for-cgc-cards/52535) ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/banks/32/255729_2.png) [@banks](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/968 "2025-01-30T03:47:04Z")
I know itā€™s a lot to ask but it would be great if all the speculation and ā€œI knew itā€ comments could be separated from the actual fact reporting Iā€™m trying to create a visual timeline of the findings and sifting through 800 messages is a pain ---
**Author:** ![fritz](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/fritz/32/481_2.png) [@fritz](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/fritz)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:02am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/many-of-the-pokemon-playtest-cards-were-likely-printed-in-2024/52421/969 "2025-01-30T04:02:32Z")
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