"Junk Slab" discussion

[Cerulean]

@alchemyst

@milhouse

Junk Slab = A low grade non-desirable low rarity card that someone has graded purely to try and net a tiny profit margin. Just needs to be cleared out because the space it takes up isn’t worth it.

A CGC 5 Base Set Common is a junk slab, a CGC 5 Japanese Shining is not.
It is ok to collect junk slabs. It is also ok to call a card a junk slab.

Stop caring what other people think lmao.

I agree. People shouldn’t care what I think lol. Then again, I wouldn’t say a trophy card is junk, but I’d never want one. No matter the grade. Something that was awarded to someone else, isn’t something I ever want. It’s worthless to me

Then you probably should have said that instead of saying “trophy cards aren’t very desirable.”

[tfgh]

@cardgames12345

If a card has been played with and beat down, cards which love beacuse I played against freinds and tournament with them and did some what well.Why would I all of a sudden want to put it in a slab. That is what I don’t get when people summit their beat up cards even if just for yourself. It lived without a slab why put it in now what the point of the 3.5 graded card in a slab that has been played with.If it’s rare like tournament cards and only a few exist that fair enough.But everything else I don’t see the point

I see what you’re saying, however I have personally graded at least one card that was in pretty poor condition for the protection. The card in question was my first shadowless zard. i have since obtained the full PSA 10 set, however that card was one of my most prized possessions when I was younger. it only graded a 4 and I was happy with that. I graded it for the added protection that the slab gives the card. it now proudly sits on my desk and I don’t have to worry about banging it or passing it round friends who probably wouldn’t handle my cards in the careful way I would like.

Overhyped card, bad grade, looks pretty rough, but I would sell my PSA 10 before I sold that one. Everyone is different, but for me it was worth it.

[alchemyst]

@Cerulean

@alchemyst

I agree. People shouldn’t care what I think lol. Then again, I wouldn’t say a trophy card is junk, but I’d never want one. No matter the grade. Something that was awarded to someone else, isn’t something I ever want. It’s worthless to me

Then you probably should have said that instead of saying “trophy cards aren’t very desirable.”

I still don’t think they are very desirable though. Is that the case here? Of course not. E4 isn’t the whole pokemon community. Just because people can’t afford something, doesn’t mean they would want it if they could.

[eeveeteam]

Defending junk slabs by saying “they are someone’s childhood cards” isn’t a valid argument because if they were cherished childhood cards, why are we seeing them for sale on ebay and facebook?

[smpratte]

So the cards that receive no bids aren’t junk and someone’s treasure.

But the cards that receive the highest bids aren’t really desirable.

Got it.

[alchemyst]

@japanime

@alchemyst

I agree. People shouldn’t care what I think lol. Then again, I wouldn’t say a trophy card is junk, but I’d never want one. No matter the grade. Something that was awarded to someone else, isn’t something I ever want. It’s worthless to me

Even though I was one of the first collectors to have ever bought a trophy card, I actually agree (at least to a certain extent) with what you are saying.

When I bought it, I did so in large part for the publicity it would garner my then-fledgling company. And it worked, as the purchase was covered by several media outlets. But it did initially feel somewhat weird owning a “prize” that I hadn’t personally won. (Today, however, I consider the card to be just as much a part of the history of my company as it is of the history of Pokemon.)

My question for you is this: If a card that was actually awarded to a player is “worthless” to you because it isn’t something that you won, would you ever want to own one of the non-awarded “extra” prints of those trophy cards that have found their way into the hands of collectors?

I appreciate the back story!

I’d have to say no. I still wouldn’t want one of those extra prints. I’d would still associate those with the ones that were given as a prize. I played 3 different sports growing up. All the way till I was 18. Had a room full of trophies. I couldn’t imagine having any of those if I didn’t earn them. These trophy cards are no different, in my eyes

[HumanForScale]

@alchemyst

@Cerulean

Then you probably should have said that instead of saying “trophy cards aren’t very desirable.”

I still don’t think they are very desirable though. Is that the case here? Of course not. E4 isn’t the whole pokemon community. Just because people can’t afford something, doesn’t mean they would want it if they could.

Part of critical thinking means being able to put yourself in another person’s shoes to understand why they have their viewpoints. There are very obvious reasons why people want trophies or things they cannot afford.

I would encourage you to look back on what everyone is telling you, and process why they have those positions. This might make you more flexible in your own positions around why people call things “junk slabs”. Otherwise you are the same person that you cite that you would not have confidence in.

@alchemyst

@muk

If a person has a strong sentimental bond to a certain low-value card, they will submit it regardless of what anyone calls it - but no one here would call such a sentimental card a “junk slab” anyway.

If this person’s reason for submitting a readily available, bad condition card is of financial nature, they should be glad that the term “junk slab” exists, because it might make them aware that they’re about to throw their money out of the window and hopefully think twice about it.
As an added benefit this person won’t be adding to the PSA backlog which is positive for everyone involved.

I do agree with what you’re saying. But do you think everyone else can distinguish the two?

I don’t have that same confidence in people. There are still a whole lot of people who think the US presidential election was stolen.

I would also like to point you towards this particular chart. Where do you personally think you are, and where do other people responding to you think you are?

[alchemyst]

@eeveeteam

Defending junk slabs by saying “they are someone’s childhood cards” isn’t a valid argument because if they were cherished childhood cards, why are we seeing them for sale on ebay and facebook?

Eventually, my childhood cards will be sold. Do you believe everyone takes their childhood cards to the grave, and never sells any?

[alchemyst]

@smpratte

So the cards that receive no bids aren’t junk and someone’s treasure.

But the cards that receive the highest bids aren’t really desirable.

Got it.

Obviously the trophy cards are more desirable than the ones that get no bids, but that doesn’t mean they are very desirable. When I say desirable, I’m talking about quantity of people. I’ll bet, even with collectors who can afford those cards, there’s still not that many that actually want them.

[eeveeteam]

@alchemyst

@eeveeteam

Defending junk slabs by saying “they are someone’s childhood cards” isn’t a valid argument because if they were cherished childhood cards, why are we seeing them for sale on ebay and facebook?

Eventually, my childhood cards will be sold. Do you believe everyone takes their childhood cards to the grave, and never sells any?

When they have a 6xx cert from PSA?. That was clearly graded within the last year for intention of flipping, not for keeping a childhood card from more than a couple of years. Thus, junk slab.

[alchemyst]

@HumanForScale

@alchemyst

I still don’t think they are very desirable though. Is that the case here? Of course not. E4 isn’t the whole pokemon community. Just because people can’t afford something, doesn’t mean they would want it if they could.

Part of critical thinking means being able to put yourself in another person’s shoes to understand why they have their viewpoints. There are very obvious reasons why people want trophies or things they cannot afford.

I would encourage you to look back on what everyone is telling you, and process why they have those positions. This might make you more flexible in your own positions around why people call things “junk slabs”. Otherwise you are the same person that you cite that you would not have confidence in.

@alchemyst

I do agree with what you’re saying. But do you think everyone else can distinguish the two?

I don’t have that same confidence in people. There are still a whole lot of people who think the US presidential election was stolen.

I would also like to point you towards this particular chart. Where do you personally think you are, and where do other people responding to you think you are?

Wait, do you think I don’t understand why people have the positions they do? I think I’ve been pretty accepting of those positions. I just said that not everyone else has the same positions. I have said numerous times now, that I understand why people call junk slabs, junk slabs. I feel like a broken record at this point. I JUST DONT LIKE THE TERM JUNK SLAB.

BTW, I’m still waiting for the apology from the person who said the more experienced collectors are the ones who decided what junk slabs are. That’s pretty dismissive of the majority of collectors. If you’re gonna check me for being dismissive, I’d appreciate it if you did it across the board. Thanks

[alchemyst]

@eeveeteam

@alchemyst

Eventually, my childhood cards will be sold. Do you believe everyone takes their childhood cards to the grave, and never sells any?

When they have a 6xx cert from PSA?. That was clearly graded within the last year for intention of flipping, not for keeping a childhood card from more than a couple of years. Thus, junk slab.

How do you know it wasn’t someone’s childhood card though? Maybe they were just trying to cash in

[cooltrainertony]

4star, i think its time

[fourthstartcg]

@cooltrainertony

4star, i think its time

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