# is this Near Mint/PSA7?

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**Category:** General\
**Created:** [August 16, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327 "2018-08-16T01:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/1 "2018-08-16T01:59:03Z")

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Yeah looks like a PSA 7 to me. Maybe a 6 on a bad day

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**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/2 "2018-08-16T02:01:49Z")

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I wouldn’t call it NM. Not for a Japanese card anyway… Excellent/Light Played.

That being said, I see PSA maybe giving that a 7 if they’re feeling generous. lol

I would personally return it. It’s easy to find these NM/M. Even graded copies are fairly cheap.

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**Author:** ![TrainOfThought](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/trainofthought/32/37308_2.png) [@TrainOfThought](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/TrainOfThought)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/3 "2018-08-16T08:55:10Z")

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> [@poken00b88](#):
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> I wouldn’t call it NM. Not for a Japanese card anyway… Excellent/Light Played.
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> That being said, I see PSA maybe giving that a 7 if they’re feeling generous. lol
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> I would personally return it. It’s easy to find these NM/M. Even graded copies are fairly cheap.

You probably haven’t seen those played japanese psa 10’s. So yes i’d say this fits the mark for a 7 easily.

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**Author:** ![joer](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/joer/32/131558_2.png) [@joer](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/joer)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/4 "2018-08-16T12:14:29Z")

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Yea and I wouldn’t return it simply because the seller was pretty honest on grade. I always hate when people ask for a return when the card is basically right on the money. I had to do a return for a “graded” card from Canada. It cost me almost half the price of the card because the jerk made me pay shipping. I say if you really want to return it then do the right thing and pay shipping. Near Mint is not Mint after all by PSA standards and ungraded cards are almost a “risk” not a sure thing.

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**Author:** ![crow](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/crow/32/1010_2.png) [@crow](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/crow)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/5 "2018-08-16T13:41:17Z")

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I hate silvering too, but PSA seems to not weigh it as much in grading. That looks like a 7 to me, though maybe not a particularly good one.

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**Author:** ![oddjobwashere](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/oddjobwashere/32/957_2.png) [@oddjobwashere](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/oddjobwashere)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/6 "2018-08-16T14:53:53Z")

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I know you are talking PSA, but here’s my Beckett 8.5. Might help from some perspective when compared to yours. I personally think yours is a solid PSA 7. It’s that larger nic on the rear side above the middle that keeps it from being anything higher, and depending on the grader, could make it a 6. But the holo is perfect, I don’t see how it could possibly be lower.

Sorry not the greatest photos. Early morning coffee-shakes ; D

![](https://s8.postimg.cc/g0a4dzqtf/IMG_20180816_094003375_HDR.jpg?dl=1)

![](https://s8.postimg.cc/8kaus8der/IMG_20180816_093859420_HDR.jpg?dl=1)

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**Author:** ![0ean](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/0ean/32/172996_2.png) [@0ean](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/0ean)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/7 "2018-08-16T15:07:15Z")

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How much did you pay for the ungraded? They are going cheap and so are the PSAs on eBay

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/8 "2018-08-16T15:37:57Z")

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> [@carrot](#):
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> > [@0ean](#):
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> It was about $36,50  
> Well thanks everyone I myself wouldn’t sell it as a Near Mint :x  
> But thats because I sell a card not based on what I think it will do at PSA.

Why not? That is really the only way I sell cards because so many people out there look to grade. I probably would have sold that as a LP-NM definitely not a PSA 8+. Anytime I am selling a card that isn’t mint I be sure to state that it isn’t a PSA 8/9/10 so people can’t be upset when a card of “non gradable” quality like the one you have comes in.

PSA just so happens to have the most ubiquitous grading scale in the hobby so it isn’t unreasonable to use theirs. It is a bit odd specifically what they call some of their middle grades (looking at you EX-MT) but it is what everyone knows.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/9 "2018-08-16T16:26:25Z")

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> [@carrot](#):
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> > [@0ean](#):
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> > How much did you pay for the ungraded? They are going cheap and so are the PSAs on eBay
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> It was about $36,50  
> Well thanks everyone I myself wouldn’t sell it as a Near Mint :x  
> But thats because I sell a card not based on what I think it will do at PSA.

I kind of understand this. Before I discovered PSA, what I thought of as a “near mint” card looked closer to what would be a PSA 8. Most 7s that I see I would have called “excellent” prior to becoming aware of PSA standards.

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**Author:** ![poken00b88](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/poken00b88/32/244_2.png) [@poken00b88](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/poken00b88)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/10 "2018-08-16T18:02:05Z")

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Well you got a pretty good deal. That’s around the price of a 6.

Up to you whether you want to return it or not. I also would not list this as NM. Ask more pictures next time.

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**Author:** ![maverick75](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/maverick75/32/674_2.png) [@maverick75](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/maverick75)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-near-mint-psa7/21327/11 "2018-08-16T19:05:57Z")

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If you hate silvering stay away from Jungle. If PSA didn’t give leeway for silvering none of those would ever get 10s.

If you want a Japanese charizard look up “Hiromiyo” on eBay, he uploads a ton of photos for each card. I bought a “Excellent” conditon one from him and it got a 9.
