# Is this first Ed Dracaufeu/Charizard fake? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [January 13, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119 "2022-01-13T19:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jackr2020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jackr2020/32/1668_2.png) [@jackr2020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jackr2020)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/1 "2022-01-13T19:18:21Z")
Hey y’all. I recently bought this guy off eBay for a pretty penny, but after examining it I think it might be fake. My main concerns are all the horizontal lines throughout the entire holo - they don’t look like your typical print lines - it’s through the entire holo. Another area of concern is the body of the card. When I shine a light on it, it has somewhat of a glow or shine to it… never really seen anything like it. Not sure if French cards were printed slightly differently or if I’m just paranoid. Let me know what you think, thanks so much ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/941c1a24d863377ecd752ea08a540d1a.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/e0a6be7579a0e4ec66e1636476eed93c.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/785e1e9dbfe56de2ebe29857002cc91b.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/943be50b16ee751da369805d71177bf9.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/ef63a01307e443c34cb6367c947afc9c.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/660349c9c177406477277bae2f496300.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/de44fbf4f61cd25cb48a2aca9f17213e.jpg) ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/0ef9a6c396cbc54176ccc69a5970c436.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![papafrankgod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/papafrankgod/32/52139_2.png) [@papafrankgod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/papafrankgod)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/2 "2022-01-13T19:35:04Z")
Card looks legit to me ---
**Author:** ![pfm](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/pfm/32/254328_2.png) [@pfm](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/pfm)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/3 "2022-01-13T19:39:10Z")
If it’s fake, it’s the best fake I’ve ever seen ---
**Author:** ![lavendergengar](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lavendergengar/32/2270_2.png) [@lavendergengar](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lavendergengar)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/4 "2022-01-13T20:04:56Z")
It’s legit. ---
**Author:** ![davie](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/davie/32/2443_2.png) [@davie](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/davie)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/5 "2022-01-13T20:25:09Z")
It checks out against other legit copies. ---
**Author:** ![bash2112](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/bash2112/32/2434_2.png) [@bash2112](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/bash2112)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/6 "2022-01-13T20:31:30Z")
Looks real ---
**Author:** ![jackr2020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jackr2020/32/1668_2.png) [@jackr2020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jackr2020)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/7 "2022-01-13T21:49:20Z")
Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it. We’ll see what PSA thinks of it lol ---
**Author:** ![papafrankgod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/papafrankgod/32/52139_2.png) [@papafrankgod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/papafrankgod)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/8 "2022-01-13T22:08:30Z")
> [@jackr2020](#): > > Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it. We’ll see what PSA thinks of it lol Hope PSA don’t send it to BBCE lol ---
**Author:** ![davie](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/davie/32/2443_2.png) [@davie](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/davie)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/9 "2022-01-13T22:13:57Z")
> [@papafrankgod](#): > > > [@jackr2020](#): > > > > Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it. We’ll see what PSA thinks of it lol > > Hope PSA don’t send it to BBCE lol Doesn’t PSA outsource its sealed product authentication to a third party (not BBCE, but another grading company)? ---
**Author:** ![Quuador](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/quuador/32/237215_2.png) [@Quuador](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Quuador)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 10:02am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/10 "2022-01-14T10:02:50Z")
Real. The horizontal lines are probably a minor printing error. There are also English Jungle holofoil cards with (thicker) vertical lines, which is a pretty similar error. Here an example of one I saved a picture of: ![](https://www.elitefourum.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c61d1556ed7e733b9d58a8c8f5e073f32a182177.png) Not sure how the lines will affect the grade, but based on those Charizard pictures, I’d say it’s real. Greetz, Quuador ---
**Author:** ![jackr2020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/jackr2020/32/1668_2.png) [@jackr2020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/jackr2020)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/is-this-first-ed-dracaufeu-charizard-fake/34119/11 "2022-01-14T19:03:33Z")
> [@Quuador](#): > > Real. The horizontal lines are probably a minor printing error. > There are also English Jungle holofoil cards with (thicker) vertical lines, which is a pretty similar error. Here an example of one I saved a picture of: > > ![](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c61d1556ed7e733b9d58a8c8f5e073f32a182177.png) > > Not sure how the lines will affect the grade, but based on those Charizard pictures, I’d say it’s real. > > Greetz, > Quuador Wow, those vertical lines are very defined. Thanks for sharing, I’ve never seen anything like this before. Glad to know there are other cards like this