Financial markets across the board are dropping. How will Bitcoin losing 25% in a month impact Pokemon prices?
- Pokemon prices drop
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- Pokemon is a hedge against inflation
- Pokemon is not correlated
Financial markets across the board are dropping. How will Bitcoin losing 25% in a month impact Pokemon prices?
It /might/ stop PSA 10 1st edition Jungle and Fossil holos from selling for $20k, but beyond that who knows
Genuinly I think it is alt season time.
I dont see BTC being #1 anymore.
Plus people are getting wary of Microstrategy - personally I think they are a huge risk vector.
For cards, we may see less âExclusive Private Salesâ paid in BTC - which may affect high end market.
I still think Base needs to see a big run though.
I would say that there are segments of the market correlated with crypto but at this point the bulk of the market is too big to be moved by this one thing
I think prices will stagnate since thereâs less of an incentive to take an L or break even on crypto. Probably will not crash because thereâs already so much money inside of the hobby already
im sure they âsoldâ on pwcc for that price ![]()
The argument for bitcoin dropping impacting Pokemon cards is that people donât feel confident anymore. If bitcoin and stocks can go down just like that, why not Pokemon cards. The consistent supply and high pop arguments are starting to suddenly make a lot of sense.
The argument against is that since people had to sell bitcoin or other assets in order for the prices to go down, they now have cash on hand. And you know what they say, âNever underestimate a passionate collector with ready cash and no plansâ.
And then you have the prices staying flat argument and I think itâs because a lot of collectors donât dabble that much in crypto to the point where a crash might affect their buying habits in Pokemon cards. Not at least until the general economy outside of crypto is affected in a significant way.
Depending on how things turn out for the Pokemon card market, any of these apply.
Its not that complicated, if the economy isnt doing well, stock market goes down, crypto goes down, and pokemon will follow. Keep in mind though stock market != economy.
When peopleâs investment portfolios are all at all-time highs, people have more confidence to spend more money on speculative collectibles/assets like pokemon.
When markets are in a decline they are less likely to spend money. They will retract into safer areas or reduce spending on risky assets like pokemon Risk-Averse Definition & Examples - Quickonomics
I think thatâs a bit dramatic. The October/November 2025 selloff is nowhere near the 2022 recession or the tariff/trade drop in April 2025.
Bitcoin is below $100,000, but it has yet to reach the April 2025 year low.
Will these trends continue? Itâs anyoneâs guess.
I donât think a drop in Bitcoin would dramatically impact Pokemon. There are simply too many consumers in 2025, most of which are not cryptobros.
I do believe that Pokemon correlates with the larger economy (e.g., stock markets, job markets, loan rates), but once again, the âaverageâ consumerâs buying power is not going to be impacted. Most folks in Pokemon do not spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on the franchise.
We are all too sheltered on e4 seeing only genuine collectors left and right. Consumption of modern is still dominated by the âheroâ looking to buy modern at MSRP just to sell for 80% of market. The minute that goes away, suddenly PokĂ©mon isnât cool anymore.
And I canât figure out these prices on ex and mid era stuff. Who spends $5k on a non holo PSA 10 set card? Nothing about that is organic
I originally was thinking a drop in crypto would cause other speculative markets to drop, but in theory if people were looking to temporarily divest from crypto into other successful assets, it could cause an inverse reaction and make rarer items rally in price due to cash on hand.
Itâs really hard to tell which way the market will go. Only thing for certain is dollar devaluation will continue to steamroll and smart money will seek to put free cash into something that appreciates faster than the devaluation rate.
Pretty sure the Pokemon booms have also aligned with crypto booms recently, so I think Pokemon market will cool off. Of course one has to quantify which parts of the market these days which is a good thing for its breadth and depth. Iâd say modern sealed and high end/âlow popâ niche slabs will cool off the most.
Time to restart the thread, it is close to touching $50k range Now. My second hypothesis of it causing an asset rally turned out to be more accurate. As you see one cup consistently leaking, you go for a larger bowl which can be filled.
Speculative capital crossover has certainly correlated the two in the past but they remain individual and very different âassetsâ that are proven to behave differently when specific market pressures test investor resolve. The same was proven when a large section of the market believed the price of bitcoin had become âcoupledâ to the wider stock market (specifically the SP500), when in fact it was simply rising tides theory in action when macroeconomic headwinds were universally more favourable.
I didnât notice any correlation last time.
None, there have been previous swings and no correlation between bitcoin and pokemon.
Ease of access and total amount of liquid capital could effect the potential for people to be able to invest in trading cards which could effect pricing depending on a variety of factors, but a tangible goodâs value is more complex than that. Thereâs a misunderstanding as to what determines the market rate of a product. Some say itâs reliant on what the buyer is willing to spend, but fail to comprehend it also takes into account what the seller is willing to put the item up in return for. You have to have people willing to sell at the price the buyer wants to pay, and given the investments made into pokemon, its unlikely to have a direct impact as no matter if the capital is there or not, people are far less willing to sell things with real and tangible inherent value without what they consider to be proper compensation, especially if emotionally attached to that property in some manner. Thatâs the difference when it comes to speculation vs real market value. BTC is failing because crypto without relevant use case is just numbers on graph. The limited availability of an item is irrelevant if no one wants it or can make use out of the ownership of it. (especially if the assetâs purpose is a means of manipulation or malficence) Something that canât be sold for the value you want or doesnât have inherent functionality where you can extract value from itâs use is speculative at best and manipulative at worst.
So tldr, correlation, likely, causation, it depends. And that causation will be the key factor as if the pokemon market is directly impacted by the specified assetâs market value. However, it is more than likely to have an opposing effect in the long run as people will shift from speculative to real when there is turmoil or fear, as they should, as the whole point of speculative assets is to gain access to what is real.
There is literally zero correlation anymore. Btc has been nuking nonstop for the past months being in a bear market since last year while cardboard breaks record after record to this day.
Overall this is extremely bullish and many are surprised by this dynamic including myself
With that being said, equities are at an all time high with random ai stocks going 50x aswell, pretty sure many of these relatively young tech nerds are nostalgic about pokemon aswell and some of them make 10s of millions every month so..
Will be much more interesting to see what happens with cards once stocks top, likely post space x ipo or something
This didnât age well and it will never age well
You do not bet against the king. Saying dogshit altcoins will ever flip btc is like saying moonbreon will flip no rarity charizard
The only usecase of altcoins is to pump and dump them for more bitcoin