# Higher grade or first edition? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** general-board\ **Created:** [April 26, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930 "2020-04-26T12:36:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gengaranimal](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/gengaranimal/32/1527_2.png) [@gengaranimal](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/gengaranimal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/1 "2020-04-26T12:36:29Z")
Let’s say $3000 buys you either a PSA 10 Unltd Base Zard, or a PSA 7 First Ed Zard. Which do you take? And is what you choose for value, personal taste, or other? I am torn on this one personally, but I think I go First Ed since…First Ed, but passing on a 10 makes me feel a little stupid. Generally curious how the collectors who have been doing this for years think. Thanks for indulging me. ---
**Author:** ![shadowless](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/shadowless/32/2640_2.png) [@shadowless](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/shadowless)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/2 "2020-04-26T12:43:24Z")
In this specific case I´d go for the first edition as it´s literally the most iconic card in the hobby. In almost every other case I´d go for the better condition (higher grade). ---
**Author:** ![piezers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/piezers/32/138321_2.png) [@piezers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/piezers)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/3 "2020-04-26T13:09:31Z")
No question: First Edition Base! ---
**Author:** ![dalewilliamson](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dalewilliamson/32/107307_2.png) [@dalewilliamson](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/dalewilliamson)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/4 "2020-04-26T14:23:22Z")
100% 1st Ed base ---
**Author:** ![EnlightenedBulbasaur](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/enlightenedbulbasaur/32/536_2.png) [@EnlightenedBulbasaur](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/EnlightenedBulbasaur)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/5 "2020-04-26T14:29:06Z")
I could debate the merits of higher grade vs 1st edition when it comes to other WOTC sets but… Not when it comes to Base. 1st edition Base is just too special, it’s set very far apart from Unlimited Base. ---
**Author:** ![kpod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kpod/32/1132_2.png) [@kpod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/kpod)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/7 "2020-04-26T14:49:59Z")
> [@buckna](#): > > I’d personally go for the Unlimited 10 but both are great choices, but i dont think psa 7 charizard is $3k atm so it’s not very fair. They actually are $3k now My choice would be 1st base all day, everyday. It is the Alpha set of Pokémon. ---
**Author:** ![miguelito](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/miguelito/32/1032_2.png) [@miguelito](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/miguelito)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/8 "2020-04-26T16:21:45Z")
> [@shadowless](#): > > In this specific case I´d go for the first edition as it´s literally the most iconic card in the hobby. In almost every other case I´d go for the better condition (higher grade). This precisely. In most cases, I want a crisp front on my card with as minimal blemishes as possible, but in the Charizard camp it’s just more iconic and better value to have in the long run. Though I usually only would want PSA 8 and up in my personal collection, I’d be alright with a PSA 7 1st edition Charizard for sure. ---
**Author:** ![sealedgrace](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/sealedgrace/32/1392_2.png) [@sealedgrace](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/sealedgrace)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/9 "2020-04-26T16:37:59Z")
1st edition for the historical significance. ---
**Author:** ![amcgl58](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/amcgl58/32/77209_2.png) [@amcgl58](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/amcgl58)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/10 "2020-04-26T16:43:34Z")
I’m probably in the minority here but I would go with the PSA 10 Unlimited. Not a huge fan of PSA 7 cards in general. ---
**Author:** ![alienlien](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/alienlien/32/1136_2.png) [@alienlien](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/alienlien)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/11 "2020-04-26T19:01:24Z")
I’d probably buy the unlimited 10. Valuewise, I’d say 1st edition as I see more people dropping money on it. I see potential in unlimited though. ---
**Author:** ![waynesworld](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/waynesworld/32/1306_2.png) [@waynesworld](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/waynesworld)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/12 "2020-04-26T19:07:48Z")
1st Edition Base, without a doubt for me. ---
**Author:** ![zubat93](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/zubat93/32/1520_2.png) [@zubat93](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/zubat93)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/13 "2020-04-26T22:07:41Z")
1st Ed is objectively more valuable in raw condition, and even a PSA 7 is more scarce than a NM unl zard. So, I would go with 1st Ed, as its value is not mostly dependent on its grade, but because of its actual rarity. ---
**Author:** ![cullers](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/cullers/32/291_2.png) [@cullers](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/cullers)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/14 "2020-04-26T22:43:26Z")
I collect cards first, the condition of the card is secondary in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![mcorey777](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mcorey777/32/1491_2.png) [@mcorey777](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mcorey777)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/15 "2020-04-26T23:03:36Z")
Me personally I rather have 1st edition even ungraded cards over 9 or 10 unlimited cards. Maybe I’m dumb but I rather have a PSa 5 1st edition or raw in that quality over a higher grade unlimited and this goes for any set not just base but that’s just me and I like the card over the money. The card feels naked or out of place without the little first edition stamp. I know it’s dumb but I grew up with 1st edition and loved it from first site as a kid ---
**Author:** ![sacari](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/sacari/32/1094_2.png) [@sacari](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/sacari)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/16 "2020-04-26T23:41:01Z")
I would pick rarity over condition as long as the card isn’t damaged. Light played or better I will pick the 1st ed every time. ---
**Author:** ![mcorey777](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mcorey777/32/1491_2.png) [@mcorey777](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mcorey777)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/17 "2020-04-26T23:46:32Z")
> [@sacari](#): > > I would pick rarity over condition as long as the card isn’t damaged. Light played or better I will pick the 1st ed every time. I’m glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t mind light played. I just don’t get ones with crease’s or bends or significant damage. Some back whitening is fine by me as long as front is clean or very close ---
**Author:** ![sacari](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/sacari/32/1094_2.png) [@sacari](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/sacari)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/18 "2020-04-26T23:59:13Z")
> [@mcorey777](#): > > > [@sacari](#): > > > > I would pick rarity over condition as long as the card isn’t damaged. Light played or better I will pick the 1st ed every time. > > I’m glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t mind light played. I just don’t get ones with crease’s or bends or significant damage. Some back whitening is fine by me as long as front is clean or very close Big brain opinion. Light played and gem mint cards look the same in a binder. ---
**Author:** ![crow](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/crow/32/1010_2.png) [@crow](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/crow)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/19 "2020-04-27T03:55:00Z")
1st edition (or shadowless) is aways going to win out for me with base just because of how much better I like the shadowless card design. I like the more classic look without the shadow, and the colors are so much richer and more accurate. With later WotC sets, when we’re just talking about a stamp, then I don’t care so much. ---
**Author:** ![papafrankgod](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/papafrankgod/32/52139_2.png) [@papafrankgod](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/papafrankgod)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/20 "2020-04-27T04:21:54Z")
1sd ed all day, grade can suck it ---
**Author:** ![obliviox91](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/obliviox91/32/1019_2.png) [@obliviox91](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/obliviox91)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/higher-grade-or-first-edition/26930/21 "2020-05-10T12:49:28Z")
1st edition I take as well