# Great Loss Thread 2

**URL:** <https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397>\
**Category:** Market\
**Tags:** regret, story-time\
**Created:** [December 21, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397 "2023-12-21T03:36:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Charizard1020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizard1020/32/252961_2.png) [@Charizard1020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Charizard1020)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/1 "2023-12-21T03:36:09Z")

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Wanted to revive this thread. What has been your regret/bad pickup in Pokémon?

> [@The Great Loss-Porn Thread](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/the-great-loss-porn-thread/32660):
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> Let’s face it, a lot of us have gone full-retard and made some bad “investments” over the years. By a lot of us, I mean you guys, not me of course. But I can admire someone having the balls to open up 2 major credit cards, apply for a second mortgage, or just send their life’s savings in a full prolapse blow-out on the wrong card or a blurry lot gamble in hopes to make some flipper gains. In a format asimilar to wall street bets where people could snapshot photos of their portfolios earlier in…

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**Author:** ![ShinPorygon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/shinporygon/32/75807_2.png) [@ShinPorygon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/ShinPorygon)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/2 "2023-12-21T03:43:37Z")

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Buying Yokohama worlds decks when it first released 🫠

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**Author:** ![lyleberr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lyleberr/32/156919_2.png) [@lyleberr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lyleberr)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/3 "2023-12-21T03:46:05Z")

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Shining fates from gamestop at release. It was not hidden fates pt2.

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**Author:** ![KabutopsMaster](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kabutopsmaster/32/265653_2.png) [@KabutopsMaster](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/KabutopsMaster)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/4 "2023-12-21T03:50:24Z")

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no, it was not, nor is paldean fates going to be

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**Author:** ![traineramy](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/traineramy/32/132565_2.png) [@traineramy](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/traineramy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/5 "2023-12-21T03:52:15Z")

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If your guy’s biggest losses was like $30 off msrp on a booster box you’re doing just fine lol

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**Author:** ![Dyl](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/dyl/32/234623_2.png) [@Dyl](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Dyl)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 4:34am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/6 "2023-12-21T04:34:11Z")

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I actually had no clue, so I checked some purchases and here’s the worst according to PSA’s (awful) market value metric.

[![](https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/126022126/medium/356042335.jpg) ](https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/126022126/medium/356042335.jpg)  
[![](https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/126022126/medium/356044373.jpg) ](https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/126022126/medium/356044373.jpg)

2006 POKEMON JAPANESE PROMO 031 LUGIA EX-HOLO 4TH SEASON SUBSCRIPTION PSA 10

Purchase Price: $1,185.25

PSA’s Market Value: $825.25

Loss: -$360.00

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**Author:** ![lyleberr](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/lyleberr/32/156919_2.png) [@lyleberr](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/lyleberr)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/7 "2023-12-21T04:35:12Z")

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Not biggest or worst, just most regretful off the top of my head. It also sucks to be constantly reminded about overpaying when shops are still selling etbs for $30 years later.

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**Author:** ![nic](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/nic/32/84357_2.png) [@nic](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/nic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/8 "2023-12-21T04:50:40Z")

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Also using the same market value metric as @Dyl:

 ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/3/c/3cc1b35688e07a883605a8606244eb6771b3ea9e.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/2/8/283c6fed96c729209d693ffbbdc8fe7dbe53a24b.jpeg)

1998 POKEMON JAPANESE VENDING | SERIES III #25 OOYAMA’S PIKACHU PSA 5

Purchase Price (Raw + grading): $148

PSA’s Market Value: $17

Loss: -$131 (-88.8%)

This is totally my fault for underestimating the surface wear on the card. It had a minor scratch and seller even had a million clear photos of it, probably going to be a binder card at some point lol.

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**Author:** ![vic](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/vic/32/1130_2.png) [@vic](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/vic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/9 "2023-12-21T08:31:30Z")

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“i’m never gonna make the same mistake again”

 ![Screenshot 2023-12-21 at 12.30.32 AM](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/d/e/de0e423d6710d358e5fc8aa5197eed8072d639f5.png)

2 years later:

 ![Screenshot 2023-12-21 at 12.27.30 AM](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/2/7/27ad9eac5d1cdddb9bfec9b8e14c48d962053cf1.png)  
 ![Screenshot 2023-12-21 at 12.28.30 AM](https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/4/e449dc068f2f6abbd05f7be70231a6496ed8cec3.png)

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**Author:** ![Kijamon](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/kijamon/32/68685_2.png) [@Kijamon](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Kijamon)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/10 "2023-12-21T08:37:59Z")

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I would guess i’ve spent at least an extra £600 on the raichu mission than needed.

Oh that’s a card that hasn’t been available yet,better buy it right away

2 weeks later there’s another for half what I paid.

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**Author:** ![caughtatpoint](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/caughtatpoint/32/186754_2.png) [@caughtatpoint](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/caughtatpoint)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/11 "2023-12-21T08:55:06Z")

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Sometimes you have to be the one to tempt others out of the woodwork 🙂

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**Author:** ![aj84](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/aj84/32/244_2.png) [@aj84](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/aj84)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 10:29am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/12 "2023-12-21T10:29:16Z")

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Some of the bigger ones:

Sold:  
9K card collection sold for 3.7K (before fees) (3 years later)  
3.3K card bought - sold for 1.5K (before fees) (3 years later)

Kept:  
8.6K card worth about 3.7K now. (3 years later)  
8K card worth about 3.7K now. (3 years later)  
10K card worth about 3.7K now. (3 years later)  
2.7K card worth 1K now. (3 years later)

I would argue that opening any packs after sword & shield is even worse. For example, I’m pretty sure for every 3K worth I opened at best is worth 1K.

Every slab purchased after November 2020 is a loss. But I sold a majority of them and purchased cards that I would have paid 3x before. Could call it a trade. I’ve been saved by my original WOTC cards from back in the day I graded after the boom which I’ve also sold.

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**Author:** ![Metapod\_museum](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/metapod_museum/32/88080_2.png) [@Metapod\_museum](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Metapod_museum)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 11:15am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/13 "2023-12-21T11:15:24Z")

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A few:

- Openning packs (a few ETBs and several packs from LGS). Not a lot of money but just a reminder that openning packs = lose money 99.7% of the time.
- Buying a PSA 8 Tekno Topps Metapod for 450 euros, right now PSA 10 is less than that.
- Buying a case of Evolving Skies for around 600 euros after shipping+taxes and selling it for around 750 a few months before the boom.
- Buying singles in Ebay auctions from Japanesse sellers (Ninja among others). Buyee is my new friend and I could have saved tons of euros. At least I learned how to properly protect the cards for shipping.
- Not keeping my childhood collection well protected (from 1999 onwards). This really hurts.

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**Author:** ![Charizard1020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizard1020/32/252961_2.png) [@Charizard1020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Charizard1020)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/14 "2023-12-21T11:38:30Z")

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What were the cards you kept and sold that went down?

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**Author:** ![Charizard1020](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/charizard1020/32/252961_2.png) [@Charizard1020](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Charizard1020)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/15 "2023-12-21T11:38:51Z")

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This is what this thread was made for 👀

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**Author:** ![genchiro](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/genchiro/32/472_2.png) [@genchiro](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/genchiro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/16 "2023-12-21T12:01:24Z")

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How much did you buy it for?😄 I remember a release price of around 250€. Checking for ebay prices here in Europe the sold listings are still around 220€ ish.

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**Author:** ![mthursty](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/mthursty/32/159700_2.png) [@mthursty](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/mthursty)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/17 "2023-12-21T12:26:31Z")

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Bought a played FPO Charizard back in 2018 for $750.  
I probably could have spent that money on much wiser purchases back then 😴

It is still, I believe, the most money I have paid for a card…

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**Author:** ![decoypalmette](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/decoypalmette/32/254336_2.png) [@decoypalmette](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/decoypalmette)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/18 "2023-12-21T12:57:20Z")

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Bought two card during Covid when I was FOMOing really bad

-a creased unlimited Blaine’s Charizard for 230$, now I can almost have a PSA8 for that, and a PSA5 is like 130$ (-50% or more)  
-same for Cd Charizard, I panicked and forgot how common it was and I ended up paying a lot, even without considering shipping from japan and custom duties

Tldr: FOMO is bad, thanks god I didn’t have more money to throw away.

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**Author:** ![assassin5757](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/assassin5757/32/1234_2.png) [@assassin5757](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/assassin5757)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/19 "2023-12-21T13:05:55Z")

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Bought a PSA 9 Masaki Alakazam for $750 and have seen it sell as low as $500. Bought the other Masaki cards in PSA 9 at $400 as well and they seem to be in the 200-300 range now,

Don’t have the Gengar yet but hoping to snag it around $1200.

I didn’t buy many cards over $100 during pandemic highs so the above is what I bought in the past few months. While they took a hit since I’ve bought they are a lot more affordable than pandemic highs.

In some ways I lost out on potential gains like I already have many PSA 9 wotc holo pre-covid that shot up a couple hundred percent but fell upwards to 50% of peak. Probably a lot of collectors like that here.

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**Author:** ![Ashcaughtem1988](https://efour.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/www.elitefourum.com/ashcaughtem1988/32/37871_2.png) [@Ashcaughtem1988](https://www.elitefourum.com/u/Ashcaughtem1988)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/great-loss-thread-2/45397/20 "2023-12-21T13:55:29Z")

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I sold an evolving skies booster box for like $200 because I truly thought it would be reprinted. Very shortly after they shot up to the current $400 price. That’s probably the worst I’ve done in this hobby so far.

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